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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: i810 or i815

    i810 or i815
    By Abit400 December 11, 2000, 12:01 PM

    I am going to get a new mobo, but I need advice on which to buy. Can some one tell me what is better for me. It needs to be a high performance board (as opposed to a cost effective value board).
    Also what are the differences between the i810 and i810E, etc?
    Oh yeah, I can't buy new memory I will have to use my current PC100. Thanks.

    By Kelvrick December 11, 2000, 12:30 PM

    I've always seen and believed that the 815 chipset was a little more stable then the 810 chipset. Personally, I still love the 440bx chipset, but its old so I use the via's now. You can find motherboards from abit that support pentiums that use the via chipset.

    By Sketch December 11, 2000, 12:33 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
    I am going to get a new mobo, but I need advice on which to buy. Can some one tell me what is better for me. It needs to be a high performance board (as opposed to a cost effective value board).
    Also what are the differences between the i810 and i810E, etc?
    Oh yeah, I can't buy new memory I will have to use my current PC100. Thanks.

    Don't get the i810. It has worse performance, and doesn't have an AGP slot. Go for the i815. Even though you are going to use PC100 memory in the board, the i815 will give you a PC133 upgrade path that the i810 won't.

    And, if I may suggest, memory prices are rock bottom right now, so if you can scrape up the money, I'd buy memory now as well. The only way the price can go is up.

    By Un4given December 11, 2000, 04:30 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
    I am going to get a new mobo, but I need advice on which to buy. Can some one tell me what is better for me. It needs to be a high performance board (as opposed to a cost effective value board).
    Also what are the differences between the i810 and i810E, etc?
    Oh yeah, I can't buy new memory I will have to use my current PC100. Thanks.

    The i810 is Intel's low cost chipset designed for use by OEM's because the video is integrated, and so is the i815, but the i810 doesn't support an external AGP slot where the i815 does.

    There is a version of the i810 that supports 133MHz FSB and memory, but it is still not a good board to build a performance system.

    By busithoth December 11, 2000, 04:58 PM

    Am I totally wrong, or does the 810 take RDRam anyway? That sort of smashes your options, really. Intel really dropped the ball on PIII platforms for SDRam.

    VIA got the much needed time and chance to improve their own boards, and now they can actually compete with Intel for pretty much as long as Intel's stuck with their terrible alliance with Rambus, maker of RDRam (and owner of the patent on DDR, I believe).

    If you're set on Intel, then the 815ep would be my recommendation. You can save a few bucks by getting the model without onboard video.

    You can save more by getting the CUV4X, though. Or go Abit. Have fun,

    By Willy-Willy December 11, 2000, 05:07 PM

    i810 only support 100Mhz FSB, while i810e support 133Mhz FSB. But I will not choose them at all, course they are suck at games!

    By Abit400 December 12, 2000, 06:32 PM

    Since a lot of people seem to be bashing the Intel line, what are my choices for VIA chipsets. My friend had an Apollo (133 bus), but that thing stunk. I know there must be better stuff by VIA (the MVP3 was good). Can some one show me some cheap (around 80-110) VIA chipsets?

    By AMD_Forever December 12, 2000, 08:47 PM

    The i810 takes SDRAM, but I believe even the i810e with the 133FSB support still uses 100mhz memory clock. There's also the issue of no AGP slot on i810. AND the 815e will crush the 810 in performance. As for stability, I'd assume they're equal since the i815e is just an i810 with 133 memory bus and AGP slot. Also, you might want an i815EP chipset that doesnt have any integrated graphics. This gives the 815ep a cheaper price than 815e boards.

    By SitsInDish December 13, 2000, 01:21 AM

    Since you already have a BE6, stick with it for another six months. quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
    I am going to get a new mobo, but I need advice on which to buy. Can some one tell me what is better for me. It needs to be a high performance board (as opposed to a cost effective value board).
    Also what are the differences between the i810 and i810E, etc?
    Oh yeah, I can't buy new memory I will have to use my current PC100. Thanks.

    By Reality December 13, 2000, 10:43 AM

    If you have your heart set on upgrading to another motherboard, may I make a couple suggestions? First off, ditch the i810 and stick w/ the i815. Secondly, if you do get an i815 board, get the Asus CUSL2-C or the Abit SA6R. Only downfall here is that, even though the SA6R is a better performer, it costs a bit more than the CUSL2-C.

    Pricewatch.com:

    Abit SA6R - i815e ATA 100 IDE RAID ATX - (w/HPT730 UDMA100 RAID, Video, Audio )
    1AGP 4X slot
    6 PCI slots
    Total: $143
    Shipg: $11 UPS Ground Microbarn
    800-605-3575


    Asus CUSL2-C - i815ep
    (Dual UDMA/100 - PC133)
    1-AGP 4x
    6 PCI
    2 CNR
    5 USB
    3 DIMM
    Total: $112
    Shipg: $13.62
    800-813-4218 Neuron, Inc. PA

    By Un4given December 13, 2000, 02:15 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
    Since a lot of people seem to be bashing the Intel line, what are my choices for VIA chipsets. My friend had an Apollo (133 bus), but that thing stunk. I know there must be better stuff by VIA (the MVP3 was good). Can some one show me some cheap (around 80-110) VIA chipsets?

    The Apollo Pro 133 was OK, but definitely needed improvement. That's where the Apollo Pro 133A comes in. The currently shipping versions of this chip, using the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers, can perform about on par with the Intel chipsets. These boards tend to be less expensive as well.

    On that note, the Asus CUV4X would be a good choice.

    By 100%TotallyNude December 13, 2000, 04:23 PM

    Lemme add here by saying I'm currently using the Intel 815EEA and its a fine board, really. I'm going to ditch it so I can grab a CUSL2-C, I'm bothered when a board includes video I'll never use, and I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how to overclock on this board, its jumperless and has no fsb/clock options. Other than that its a great board.

    By Ymaster December 13, 2000, 04:46 PM

    quote:Originally posted by 100%TotallyNude:
    Lemme add here by saying I'm currently using the Intel 815EEA and its a fine board, really. I'm going to ditch it so I can grab a CUSL2-C, I'm bothered when a board includes video I'll never use, and I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how to overclock on this board, its jumperless and has no fsb/clock options. Other than that its a great board.


    Not all 815 boards come with onboard video..But most due so, the cost is still going to be the same.

    By Abit400 December 13, 2000, 09:19 PM

    Can I use the onboard video as a second video card for a multi-monitor set up or is it linked to the AGP bus and therefor cannot run with an AGP video card?

    By Willy-Willy December 13, 2000, 09:35 PM

    Just to correct something in my previous post. I mean I will never use i810 family chipsets.

    By Un4given December 14, 2000, 05:19 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
    Can I use the onboard video as a second video card for a multi-monitor set up or is it linked to the AGP bus and therefor cannot run with an AGP video card?

    You will not be able to use the onboard video with an AGP card installed. As soon as you install the AGP card, the onboard video is disabled.


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