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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: Poll: Who's Buying What Processor For Christmas

    Poll: Who's Buying What Processor For Christmas
    By Arcadian December 08, 2000, 11:55 PM

    I am curious how many people are buying a processor this month. It doesn't have to be for Christmas... I just put that in the subject line. Please also respond if you have not and are not planning on buying anything this month.

    For those that have bought or are planning on buying a processor this month, please respond with what it is. And just for fun, if you plan to overclock it, put down your goal.

    I'm doing this for a couple of reasons. First, I want to find out the demand for processors over the holiday season. And second, I want to see what people on this board are into buying. I hope you don't mind taking a second to respond. I would appreciate it.

    PS... If you are waiting to buy something in January or later, please indicate that, because I am more interested in purchases this month. Thanks!

    By Phatman December 08, 2000, 11:57 PM

    As soon as the DDR 1.2GHz T-Birds come out, or 1.4GHz Palominos (if the extra wait isn't too long) then I'll be typing in my credit card number as fast as my little hands can. I'm not sure when this will happen though...

    By Arcadian December 08, 2000, 11:57 PM

    I'll go first. (I guess second )

    I don't plan on buying anything this month.

    However, as a side note, I made a recent purchase of an 800EMHz Pentium III last month. I plan on overclocking it to 960Mhz. I consider it a holiday present to myself.

    By TimisoaraKill December 09, 2000, 12:26 AM

    quote:Originally posted by Phatman:
    As soon as the DDR 1.2GHz T-Birds come out, or 1.4GHz Palominos (if the extra wait isn't too long) then I'll be typing in my credit card number as fast as my little hands can. I'm not sure when this will happen though...

    Hey pathman do you work with your computer ?it is a work station or a gamer one ?
    Why in the earth you want to change that thunder system you hawe ?
    I haw a 450 celeron With a voodoo 3 so for me is normaly to upgrade but you want to upgrade a 1200 + gf2 , this sound's guffy.
    Anyway i want to buy next month a 1 ghz t.bird system but with the kt7a 266 fsb motherboard .


    By Phoenix December 09, 2000, 12:57 AM

    I don't plan on buying anything over the holidays. But I purchased a 900 T-Bird, ASUS A7V, Elsa Gladiac 32MB, 30GB IBM 75GXP and 256MB of Corsair PC133 CAS2 not too long ago. I just started O/Cing the last night, I hope to get to 1.1GHz with some better cooling. Also, my brother and my friend just bought T-Bird (1Ghz and 900MHz) setups with the KT7 (RAID and Non-Raid).

    By godsend1 December 09, 2000, 01:27 AM

    I am getting a Celeron 566 for Christmas.

    By Phatman December 09, 2000, 01:30 AM

    Yes, I do work on it I do work work, school work, and play games I want DDR b/c it's faster... i guess that's the only reason I have. Anyway, the move to SCSI and DDR will be my last upgrade for awhile... at least til the next generation video cards come out, and 1.7GHz Processor... mainly due to the fact that I've decided to invest my moolah in some low-risk stocks and savings accounts.

    By lmpulse December 09, 2000, 01:32 AM

    I just bought a cd burner and 128mb more ram and a tbird and motherboard.
    if anything I would buy a kt133A motherboard and a bigger harddisk and 128mb more ram if prices fall more. if not I'll make do with what I have now.

    By Kibe December 09, 2000, 01:45 AM

    I plan on buying a Duron 700...unless I find a good reason to spend more on an Athlon. I'd like to OC it to 900 but I'm not looking to push it to the limit. Unless that is it's limit

    By Acceptable_Risk December 09, 2000, 02:01 AM

    I'm pretty happy with my T-Bird right now. I think it'll be a while. I'd be happy with some more ram though.


    By FaTs December 09, 2000, 03:59 AM

    Well i bought myself a geforce 2 ultra as a chrissy pres and i plan to o/c that to around 320/520 . I am also buying a SBLive! Platunim ot X-gamer to replace my value.

    By slipgun December 09, 2000, 06:17 AM

    I'm buying a cC0 Celeron 667 which I hope to push to a 112MHz FSB (1.12GHz) or at least 103MHz FSB (1.03GHz)... to add to that, I'll need more RAM for Win2K and a decent CD drive

    By *-SiNcErE-* December 09, 2000, 06:42 AM

    I don't know. either deciding on dual PIII-800 or if DDR AMD stuff comes out soon, then I'll get that. well, its either a new processor and mobo or switching to full SCSI. can't really decide, cuz although my athlon-500 is kinda slow, its also amazingly stable and haven't had any problems or conflicts (except for that hacked fasttrak66 RAID that wouldn't install win2k). decisions decisions.

    By nouras December 09, 2000, 07:35 AM

    Upgrading from a P3 600E to a P3 800E

    Will I find better performance with it??

    By Drak December 09, 2000, 07:59 AM

    T-Bird 1ghz = )...already thinking about how much I can oc it :޼/FONT>

    By church December 09, 2000, 09:47 AM

    I'm getting a Celeron 600 for Christmas. Going to overclock it to 900.

    By kreidel December 09, 2000, 10:08 AM

    I purchased a P3 1 ghz

    By Grizzly December 09, 2000, 11:09 AM

    I'm a poooor a$$ college kid right now, so I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon. I'm gonna ride out my P3-550e@733 as long as I can.

    I *did* consider getting an 800e so I could overclock that in upwards of 1GHz...but I decided that the money I would spend really wouldn't be worth it. I whole heartedly believe that I wouldn't see much difference between a 733Mhz and a 1GHz. I would certainly see an increase in framerates in games....but I really don't play games as often as I used to. Too busy.

    By TinGod December 09, 2000, 11:41 AM

    AMD 1.1 Ghz Thunderbird

    By RPG Junkie December 09, 2000, 01:16 PM

    I am thinkin bout buyin a PIII 600 or 650. Possibly 700 if my mobo can handle a PIII at that speed. Since I can probably o/c my mobo to 133 fsb I will be havin fun with the chips

    By nova December 09, 2000, 02:40 PM

    T-bird of some sort. Maybe 750 or 800 to replace the 600 duron I toasted.

    By CajnDave December 09, 2000, 06:21 PM

    I'm trying decide between a PIII 700 or 800 cCo. I want to o/c to 1ghz.

    By sapasion December 09, 2000, 08:27 PM

    quote:Originally posted by CajnDave:
    I'm trying decide between a PIII 700 or 800 cCo. I want to o/c to 1ghz.

    Either of those cpus will do 1Ghz. The 700e will give you a faster FSB at 1Ghz and thus have a slight performance advantage over an 800e at 1Ghz. However, the 800e is more likely to do 1.1Ghz than the 700e. Though admittedly, less than half of the cC0 800'e crack 1.1Ghz.

    By xzambuca December 09, 2000, 09:10 PM

    i just ordered a new 1GHz T-Bird sys;
    the money i saved went into tons of goodies, it's gonna be loaded!

    what is this DDR prefix i keep hearing about-
    <>

    what, i typed that, ohh thellwithit...

    By dond2002 December 09, 2000, 09:12 PM

    p3 1ghz and geforce2 gts and 256 meg ram and ata/100 7200 rpm 40 gig hd and creative fps 3500 5.1 dolby digital speaker system! christmas arrived early here.

    found out yesterday cable access will be here within 3 months..that'll be a late x-mas present!

    By *-SiNcErE-* December 09, 2000, 09:31 PM

    wow, looks like dond2002 is have 2 x-mas' this year! luck you!

    By NEwBoY December 09, 2000, 09:43 PM

    quote:Originally posted by xzambuca:

    what is this DDR prefix i keep hearing about-
    <>

    DDR stands for Dual Data Rate

    100mhz SDR=100mhz
    100mhz DDR=200mhz

    By NEwBoY December 09, 2000, 09:45 PM

    quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
    Well i bought myself a geforce 2 ultra as a chrissy pres and i plan to o/c that to around 320/520 . I am also buying a SBLive! Platunim ot X-gamer to replace my value.

    are you sure about upgrading your sound card?
    the 3 cards are EXACTLY the same, the only difference lies in the optimized software bundles, so you should probably save that $$$ or spend it on something else

    just a suggestion

    By CajnDave December 09, 2000, 09:47 PM

    quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
    Either of those cpus will do 1Ghz. The 700e will give you a faster FSB at 1Ghz and thus have a slight performance advantage over an 800e at 1Ghz. However, the 800e is more likely to do 1.1Ghz than the 700e. Though admittedly, less than half of the cC0 800'e crack 1.1Ghz.

    The 700 would be 150fsb and the 800 133fsb to hit 1ghz. I've got one stick of Infineon PC133 and one stick of Mosel Vitalic pc133,256mb total. The Mosel was substituted for the Infineon on my last order without asking me. See any problems reaching 150fsb?


    By sapasion December 09, 2000, 10:27 PM

    quote:Originally posted by CajnDave:
    The 700 would be 150fsb and the 800 133fsb to hit 1ghz. I've got one stick of Infineon PC133 and one stick of Mosel Vitalic pc133,256mb total. The Mosel was substituted for the Infineon on my last order without asking me. See any problems reaching 150fsb?

    I see a whole bunch of problem reaching 1050 with a 700. First will the chip itself make it? Do you have enough cooling? Will the mobo support it? Is your ram capable of reaching a 150FSB? To say 700e's will do 1050 is like saying Mark McGwire can hit home runs. That's obviously true. But reputation can predece actual results. Furthermore, like McGwire he doesn't hit a home run more often than he does. A minority of the 700e's [even the cC0's] will actually ride a 150FSB. Like a McGwire HR, everything has to be just right to make it happen.

    By CajnDave December 09, 2000, 10:54 PM

    quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
    I see a whole bunch of problem reaching 1050 with a 700. First will the chip itself make it? Do you have enough cooling? Will the mobo support it? Is your ram capable of reaching a 150FSB? To say 700e's will do 1050 is like saying Mark McGwire can hit home runs. That's obviously true. But reputation can predece actual results. Furthermore, like McGwire he doesn't hit a home run more often than he does. A minority of the 700e's [even the cC0's] will actually ride a 150FSB. Like a McGwire HR, everything has to be just right to make it happen.

    Thanks for the input Sapasion it is truly appreciated.
    I understand the crap shoot that o/c is. I have o/c every proc I have ever had. My current PIII 700 pre cBo is @ 840. My heat sink is a Glob Win FDP32 and a VT6X4 mobo. I am thinking I will have a better chance at 1ghz with the 800. Or I can just wait a few months and get a 1ghz for the same price the 800 is now.
    My main concern is the mixture of two different memory sticks. They are both quality memory sitcks.

    By nkodsi December 09, 2000, 11:33 PM

    When are the asus and abits coming out with their new kt133a?

    just curious (actually very interested)

    By john drake December 10, 2000, 12:09 AM


    merry christmas to me is a new amd thunderbird system.

    1.0 gig amd thunderbird
    46.1 gig ibm 7200 100ata hd
    asus a7v
    sound blaster live
    Winfast leadtec gts2 32ddr
    midtower hydraulic case with amd approv 300 p/s
    pioneer 16x dvd
    3.5 f/d
    56.6 modem (backup for dsl)
    256meg of cas2 cruical ram
    plextor 12X10X32 cdrw
    windows 98se
    It's a kick but system. I think it should keep me happy for a couple of months.

    By sapasion December 10, 2000, 12:21 AM

    quote:Originally posted by nkodsi:
    When are the asus and abits coming out with their new kt133a?

    just curious (actually very interested)

    In a few weeks

    By ericsson December 10, 2000, 12:37 AM

    i plan to go to a Pentium III 700E and then modestly overclock it to 933.

    another upgrade probably is the Abit SA6R.

    By FaTs December 10, 2000, 12:57 AM

    When are they going to realse those awesome .13mircon p3 1.26ghz ?. I cant wait to o/c one of those baby's

    By sapasion December 10, 2000, 12:58 AM

    Not for months

    By Arcadian December 10, 2000, 01:23 PM

    Thanks for all the responses.

    I've got a good idea, now. But you can keep going if you want.

    By d-zen December 10, 2000, 04:24 PM

    i've saved a month's pay for this one:

    -AMD 1 Ghz Thunderbird
    -ABIT KT7 RAID
    -IBM Deskstar 45gb ATA 100 7200rpm
    -Plextor 12/10/32X Atapi
    -Pioneer 16x DVD
    -ATI Radeon 32 mb DDR
    -SBLive Value(as you can see i dont get paid that much)

    By Slayer December 10, 2000, 07:30 PM

    Well i would like to upgrade to a T-bird system but just cant afford it at the moment. But i intend to buy a P3 700e700mz or a 800mhz when the P4 starts to effect the P3 prices a bit more. Hopefully that will be a couple of months. The p3 700mhz has excellent OC potenial, i intend to OC to at least 900mhz.

    By Jo-C December 11, 2000, 02:27 AM

    I'm broke right now.....Last time I spent my money on a KT7, Duron 700, and a Fop32. Sucks being a HS student.......but at least for now I'll bear with the 1gz speed with the good old tnt2 ultra and hope or wish that someone will give me a Gforce2 for christmas present...

    By Amish_Chief December 11, 2000, 02:32 AM

    Not this month for me.

    However, if I will go for a CPU upgrade on my system, it will be an 850/100 P3. My mobo has only a 100Mhz FSB, but Dell puts restrictions on overclocking with its BIOS.

    (Hey, I overclock my TNT!)

    By slipgun December 11, 2000, 05:36 AM

    Hmm... would a Celeron@1.03GHz beat a P3@933MHz?

    By reve December 11, 2000, 07:42 AM

    slipgun, prolly not

    By SitsInDish December 11, 2000, 09:01 AM

    Probably a PIII-700E and overclocked to 133MHz FSB.

    Which reminds me, who makes the best adapter for a flip-chip to SECC2? I plan on keeping my BX for awhile...

    By Dude December 12, 2000, 01:40 AM

    I am waiting for a PIII800EB with 128mb 133ram. I've read alot about overclocking, but haven't caught on, yet(or so I think) Only the FSB can be increased and for 133ram i'll be lucky to hit 145. Anyway that's my warped understanding of it. But Feel like a 6 Yr. old on Christmas Eve. (Too bad I'm barely eating to pay for my X-Mas presents)

    By anubis44 December 12, 2000, 02:08 AM

    Well, I just bought an Athlon Thunderbird 750 chip, and a 700MHz Duron. I've tested them both, and they'll both do 900MHz. I'm waiting to see if the Athlon/Duron notebook chips are coming out in January or February. As soon as they're released and I can find one in a notebook with a GeForce2 notebook graphics chip, and a 1024x768 screen in a smaller form factor notebook, I'm buying one. I'll also be looking at the Palomino when it hits 1.5GHz. I build systems and I generally have about 5 computers in my home/office for gaming on a cable modem with friends. Whenever a machine gets a bit old, I sell it to somebody at a reasonable price. Eg. a classic Athlon 650 that I'm typing this on will be probably be going shortly. I've got shares of AMD, and I'll bet you either do also, or you're planning on buying some soon. Believe me, if the old addage that you buy on bad news (the stock is down) and sell on the good (the stock has already moved up) is true, then NOW is the time to get in on AMD for this part of the cycle. Things have never looked better for AMD over the next year, despite the PC slowdown, AMD is amazingly well-positioned to win market share from Intel. So much so, that even if fewer computers are sold, AMD could still sell more chips than ever before if its market share increases correspondingly. Also, don't forget, AMD has the drop on Intel for flash memory, as it makes up between 30-35% of AMD's revenues vs. less than 10% of Intel's. AMD already has flash capacity expansion plans executing right now, and orders for as much flash as they can make for about 2 years, locked up in very tight contracts that can't be broken without serious penalty. Not that anyone is likely to want to break their contract if they're lucky enough to have secured AMD flash memory supply for the next two years: AMD is the acknowledged leader in flash technology globally, along with their partner, Fujitsu. Good luck in your quest.

    By anubis44 December 12, 2000, 02:25 AM

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by slipgun:
    [B]Hmm... would a Celeron@1.03GHz beat a P3@933MHz?

    IMHO, probably not. First of all, the FSB settings will decide a fair bit, so the exact Celeron and PIII will be important parts of the equation, but I'll venture to guess that the FSB on the PIII will be higher than the Celeron's, unless you're putting the Celeron past 133MHz (doubtful). Also, the 256K cache on the PIII is double the size of the Celeron's 128K lvl2 cache. For purely FPU intensive calculations, the Celeron might win, but even in a FPS like Quake III or Unreal Tournament, there are other things going on besides floating point. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

    By soon2old December 20, 2000, 03:56 PM

    I'm buying a T-bird 1GHz and...

    Addtronics 7896A tower
    Abit KT7-RAID
    2 x Mosel 128MB P133 cas-2
    IBM Deskstar 30.7GB 75GXP
    Leadtek GeForce2 GTS 32MB tv-out
    CL Soundblaster Live! Player 5.1
    some 48-52X CD-ROM (don't know wich)
    MS IntelliMouse Optical
    MS Natural Keyboard Pro
    GW FOP-32 or FOP-38

    My goal is to OC the T-bird to ~1200MHz (?), and run my 256MB ram at 144Mhz/2-2-2 (or higher if possible). I'll try to tweak the GF2 GTS some to.

    By sapasion December 20, 2000, 04:15 PM

    quote:Originally posted by soon2old:
    I'm buying a T-bird 1GHz and...

    Addtronics 7896A tower
    Abit KT7-RAID
    2 x Mosel 128MB P133 cas-2
    IBM Deskstar 30.7GB 75GXP
    Leadtek GeForce2 GTS 32MB tv-out
    CL Soundblaster Live! Player 5.1
    some 48-52X CD-ROM (don't know wich)
    MS IntelliMouse Optical
    MS Natural Keyboard Pro
    GW FOP-32 or FOP-38

    My goal is to OC the T-bird to ~1200MHz (?), and run my 256MB ram at 144Mhz/2-2-2 (or higher if possible). I'll try to tweak the GF2 GTS some to.

    If you want 1.2Ghz you'd better get the 38 over the 32.

    By Pakman117 December 20, 2000, 04:17 PM

    Just bought an Abit KT7, T-Bird 800, Fop 32-1, and artic silver. Hoping to upgrade my video card to a GeForce and I might need some new RAM. Hoping I can get the T-Bird to 1 gig+

    By The WhiteRabbit December 20, 2000, 04:25 PM

    Well, I'm considering upgrading my crappy unstable 2nd system for christmas. If I do, I'll probably get a new mobo for it (I'm thinking of going with Microstar, since they're not too expensive and perform very well) and a new processor + HSF for my current machine. I'd probably get a Tbird for my current machine so I could put the Duron in it in my old machine, and I'd almost have to get a FOP 38 to see just how far I could push that Tbird. However, that upgrading won't happen until after christmas, and if notebooks with mobile Duron/Tbirds and the GeForce2 Go graphics chip become availible, plans to upgrade the second system may be put on hold for a little while -- of course, I wouldn't have to have the GeForce2 Go chipset. . . I'd be just as happy with a mobile Radeon chipset.

    By 100%TotallyNude December 20, 2000, 04:59 PM

    I already got my P3 700Mhz cC0. About 3 days
    ago.

    By sapasion December 20, 2000, 05:25 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Pakman117:
    Just bought an Abit KT7, T-Bird 800, Fop 32-1, and artic silver. Hoping to upgrade my video card to a GeForce and I might need some new RAM. Hoping I can get the T-Bird to 1 gig+

    I'd give you a great shot chance at Ghz+ speed with that set-up. Ram could be a critical factor though. You say you might ned some new ram? What exactly does that mean? Do you have generic cas3 stuff?

    By OnWelfare December 20, 2000, 05:31 PM

    +

    i'm getting a tbird 800 this week. can't wait.

    By sapasion December 20, 2000, 05:35 PM

    quote:Originally posted by The WhiteRabbit:
    Well, I'm considering upgrading my crappy unstable 2nd system for christmas. If I do, I'll probably get a new mobo for it (I'm thinking of going with Microstar, since they're not too expensive and perform very well) and a new processor + HSF for my current machine. I'd probably get a Tbird for my current machine so I could put the Duron in it in my old machine, and I'd almost have to get a FOP 38 to see just how far I could push that Tbird. However, that upgrading won't happen until after christmas, and if notebooks with mobile Duron/Tbirds and the GeForce2 Go graphics chip become availible, plans to upgrade the second system may be put on hold for a little while -- of course, I wouldn't have to have the GeForce2 Go chipset. . . I'd be just as happy with a mobile Radeon chipset.

    Yeah if you really want to push past 1Ghz you really are better off with the FOP38. Admittedly the FOP32-1, Alpha PAL6035, SuperOrb and Taisol can be used at say 1.1Ghz, but for my money the FOP38 is where its at.

    By Rogue December 20, 2000, 06:37 PM

    Duron 800
    Hoping to hit 1ghz with a hedghog when I can afford it (the non noisy one)

    Ive heard reports that sometimes the heatsink is so heay that it can damage the motherboard when you move the case around. Is this true?

    By Pakman117 December 20, 2000, 06:46 PM

    quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
    I'd give you a great shot chance at Ghz+ speed with that set-up. Ram could be a critical factor though. You say you might ned some new ram? What exactly does that mean? Do you have generic cas3 stuff?

    Yea, I got some crappy RAM. If forced to, I'll make the upgrade

    By AMD Soldier December 20, 2000, 06:58 PM

    I too just bought a 1hgz TB chip and some other stuff.

    Just one question, will the retail hsf be enough to keep the cpu cool? I'm not gonna o/c because of the crappy ram and I have no money left.

    By anubis44 December 21, 2000, 06:40 AM

    quote:Originally posted by nouras:
    Upgrading from a P3 600E to a P3 800E

    Will I find better performance with it??

    I wouldn't bother. Save up your money for a 1.5GHz AMD Palamino and DDR motherboard. That'd get you the approximately double performance that makes upgrading worthwhile.

    By slipgun December 21, 2000, 07:57 AM

    It's a cC0 Celeron 600 for me, wanna crank up one of these babies to 1GHz+

    By Neo December 21, 2000, 12:26 PM

    I'm still waiting for any chip that is beyond 1.2 ghz..looks like it's a long way to go

    By Pentium4-1.5Ghz December 21, 2000, 01:00 PM

    wtf the p4 is a 1500MHZ !!!!!!!!!!


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