I am so humbled and honored by [at least] two such fine young overclockers sporting their badges of well-earned honor. I can remember when both of you were sushi's, prior to your respective major OC's. I have witnessed your growth in knowledge, especially OC knowledge. I very much respect you and am always interested in what you have to say. Keep up the excellent work for yourselves and your conversion of others to the OC ways. Also don't forget about the anti-beat down campaign 20 days to go.

Now all we have to do is get you two genetisized !

Thanks Sir.
The Beatdown has not been forgotten. The mission will go on.

All hail king sapasion!

I am honored to address you, Hier UberOverClockerJagerMeister.

Excellent Acceptable_Risk.
You do realize YOU will be the Grand Inquisitor should this purification be necessary.

quote:Originally posted by Arcadian:
All hail king sapasion!

I am honored to address you, Hier UberOverClockerJagerMeister.

You my friend are also deserving of my respect. All the Gsharks await your most deserved arrival. Your infamy of long informative posts preceeds you. I too have learned much from you. Thanks and keep it going!

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Excellent Acceptable_Risk.
You do realize YOU will be the Grand Inquisitor should this purification be necessary.

Oooh, promotion. Cha-ching!

Sir FaTs ,Commader of the 1st Overclocking Order reporting

I await your orders my liege

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Sir FaTs ,Commader of the 1st Overclocking Order reporting

I await your orders my liege

FaTs you are a little newer to the Forums than Acceptable_Risk do you know about the Christmas beat-down?

No insurrection is complete without a commissar, I always say.

Is a pleasure to serve you my lord .

quote:Originally posted by TimisoaraKill:
Is a pleasure to serve you my lord .

You know about the Christmas beat-down too, don't you my Romainian friend?

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
You know about the Christmas beat-down too, don't you my Romainian friend?

Sapasion sorry but i do not hawe any ideea what is" beat-down to" is like is knocking at the door or what ? But you must reconize my english impruvement i mean my first post was almost not readable.

quote:Originally posted by TimisoaraKill:
Sapasion sorry but i do not hawe any ideea what is" beat-down to" is like is knocking at the door or what ? But you must reconize my english impruvement i mean my first post was almost not readable.

That's true
The Christmas beat-down was something conceived about a month ago. When I thought about how damn cheap memory was and is. I issued a challenge to all SharkyForum members higher than catfish that by Christmas they needed to have 256 of ram in their personal PC. I mean there's almost no excuse. I don't care if someone thinks 128 is enough for them 256 was the mandate. Starting at the crack of dawn December 26 I'm sending all the boyz out. Check with Acceptable_Risk he knows whats going on. He's also Grand Inquisitor for this purification ceremony.

catfish, uh, reporting in
and.....we have 256MB of memory confirmed in a crappy i810 mofo

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
That's true
The Christmas beat-down was something conceived about a month ago. When I thought about how damn cheap memory was and is. I issued a challenge to all SharkyForum members higher than catfish that by Christmas they needed to have 256 of ram in their personal PC. I mean there's almost no excuse. I don't care if someone thinks 128 is enough for them 256 was the mandate. Starting at the crack of dawn December 26 I'm sending all the boyz out. Check with Acceptable_Risk he knows whats going on. He's also Grand Inquisitor for this purification ceremony.

I got the upgrade.

128MB->256MB for me. I need to get some better memory, though (it's old). But I do have Cas3 PC100 OC'ed to 115MHz. Maybe I can get to 125MHz with some PC133 Cas2.

BTW, sapasion, do you have AIM? We should chat some time. I go by arcadianU9, if anyone's interested.

I've got my excuse that I'm still in debt from buying my sys almost 2 months ago. I still don't have speakers, a dvd drive, or a decent monitor. I have 128megs running at 148 right now, that should be worth something, my duron at 667 crushes the athlon 1ghz in memory bandwitch in Sandra. No comment on teh p4.

quote:Originally posted by LiquidGoop:
I've got my excuse that I'm still in debt from buying my sys almost 2 months ago. I still don't have speakers, a dvd drive, or a decent monitor. I have 128megs running at 148 right now, that should be worth something, my duron at 667 crushes the athlon 1ghz in memory bandwitch in Sandra. No comment on teh p4.

Ask Santa for 128
Avoid the beat down.
Trust me, Acceptable_Risk has been preparing for this event for weeks.

quote:Originally posted by Arcadian:
I got the upgrade.

128MB->256MB for me. I need to get some better memory, though (it's old). But I do have Cas3 PC100 OC'ed to 115MHz. Maybe I can get to 125MHz with some PC133 Cas2.

BTW, sapasion, do you have AIM? We should chat some time. I go by arcadianU9, if anyone's interested.

Hey don't sweat it. I've just got pc100 [1 stick is cas3 and 1 is cas2] on a 112FSB cas2. I don't have AIM. Though I've been asked to get it. Maybe soon I will.

quote:
Ask Santa for the 128

Santa better deliver on a monitor to replace my burned-in 15' hp that only does 1024 at 62hz refresh, and a DSL connection to replace my dialup from a company that just went bankrupt. Joy.

no offense....but this is the most hilarious thing that i've ever heard

quote:Originally posted by PiNoY2oo1:
no offense....but this is the most hilarious thing that i've ever heard

quote:Originally posted by LiquidGoop:
Santa better deliver on a monitor to replace my burned-in 15' hp that only does 1024 at 62hz refresh, and a DSL connection to replace my dialup from a company that just went bankrupt. Joy.

Indeed, those are paramont needs. Monitor is obviously essential. DSL is essential in my book too , but technically a luxury. Still you should definitely take care of those first.

quote:Originally posted by LiquidGoop:
Santa better deliver on a monitor to replace my burned-in 15' hp that only does 1024 at 62hz refresh, and a DSL connection to replace my dialup from a company that just went bankrupt. Joy.

I think we can spare you. I lived with a cyrix 233, 128mb ram and sli v2's until i saved for this monster. Hehe i know how you feel with that moniter too i had one like that until i got this pc .

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Sir FaTs ,Commader of the 1st Overclocking Order reporting

I await your orders my liege

Wait a sec, I thought sapasion was teh commander.

Nah, FaTs can be a commander. You can be Grand Inquisitor [or another title you like, unlike the admins I'll let you guys pick titles you like ] I don't really need a title. Maybe Emperor

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Nah, FaTs can be a commander. You can be Grand Inquisitor [or another title you like, unlike the admins I'll let you guys pick titles you like ] I don't really need a title. Maybe Emperor

Cool, I like Grand Inquisitor. It sounds mysterious and important.

And you are both of those my friend

As a lowly sushi, I would be honored if I could be included with the beat-down. All honor to the Grand Commander Saspacion.

quote:Originally posted by diogenes:
As a lowly sushi, I would be honored if I could be included with the beat-down. All honor to the Grand Commander Saspacion.

Your wording almost suggests you want to receive it. I know that's not what you meant though. By all means join us.

I am MUTT and shall remain so. quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
And you are both of those my friend

Catfish *-SiNcErE-* reporting:
confirmed with 256MB in primary system.
now 2 more systems to go.
the duron700@900 can use another 128!!
but for the P-166... I don't know...

WTF? I just looked at my posts and it says 243 (now 244 I guess). but thought I was at like 150... I think me obsessed with sharky! and that's a good thing

This overclockin thing is gettin out of hand. Today i overclocked a cyrix 200mx from 180mhz (thats the speed they actully run) to 300mhz using my fop 38 and 3.2v (up from2.9v) hehe. I ran some benchmarks on it at standard speed in sandra lol, It scored alu/ram 80mb/s. fpu/ram 84mb/s, interger mmx 394 it/s, fpu 82 it/s and cpu scpes of 436 and fpu 165.

SOme real power there hehe .

Sapasion i am getting a voodoo5 for chrissy instead of a gf2 gts. I am going to overclock it with goldern orbs , how do you think i should attach them ?

I am just the commader of the first order of overcloking knights , all hail Emperor Sapasion

Emperor Sapasion,

voluntering to participate in the European part of the Beatdown

SIR!

PS: where do i go to get my sword?

We only get butter knives, Emperor Sapasion Hoards all the kingdoms wealth

Sapasion, you're really scary, you know that?? I mean, you registered in sep 2000 and have close to 3.5k posts. I registered at HardwareCentral in jul99, I'm admin there, and have close to 1.9k posts.....do you have a autofire button on your mouse that is so fast that the flood control don't get time to kick in or what??

Anyway, can I be a knight too, or am I still just your court jester??

Duckman

Duckman

Do you know where i can find over 150w pelitiers ?

thanks

FaTs

3dcool.com has 155w
*Wants to join in*
I getting my new system soon
Can you blame me
Cyrix 300
64mb ram
voodoo banshee.....

Saving...

Make a seach for Drift 0.8, 173W

Duckman

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
Make a seach for Drift 0.8, 173W

Duckman

Thanks is 173w the most powerful they make i was more after dual 250w setup . If you can get 1.2ghz out of a 566 i figure i can get 1.3ghz out of mine.

http://www.tedist.com/modules/index.html

In the menu, click high perf. potted. Drift 0.8 cost $29.80

Duckman

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Thanks is 173w the most powerful they make i was more after dual 250w setup . If you can get 1.2ghz out of a 566 i figure i can get 1.3ghz out of mine.

I can't allow that to happen. I recommend TB-8-0.45-1.3 for you (0,4W Qmax).

Duckman

While im a newbie how do you do those cool quote thingies?

quote:Originally posted by Rogue:
While im a newbie how do you do those cool quote thingies?

you mean like this??

Duckman

YES

quote:Originally posted by Rogue:
YES

sure you wanna know??

Duckman

OK, I'll stop now

You see the image where it says "reply" right above this post(between "edit" and "ICQ")?(the note pad with the red arrow pointing to the right, right??)

Right, clikh on that one, and there you go!

Easy as a piece of pie!!

Duckman

Use the reply button over ......................................................... here ^

quote:Originally posted by Angelus:
Use the reply button over ...................................... here ^

Exactly!

Duckman

Now about the beat-down...

Should I drop cash for a high-quality 256MB stick right now? I want it to last me for the next 3 years... even when I upgrade my mobo to the newer DDR ones in the future, can I use PC133 with a DDR mobo?? Will there be an Intel chipset supporting both???

Or should I wait and get a new DDR system???

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
Now about the beat-down...

Anyone know how much RAM is going to go up over the next few months?

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
Now about the beat-down...

Should I drop cash for a high-quality 256MB stick right now? I want it to last me for the next 3 years... even when I upgrade my mobo to the newer DDR ones in the future, can I use PC133 with a DDR mobo?? Will there be an Intel chipset supporting both???

Or should I wait and get a new DDR system???

If you will be able to use your SDRAM stick on a DDR mobo depends on the board, if the manufacterer includes banks for both DDR and SDRAM, then yes you will be able to use your SDRAM on it.

However, it's not posiible to add a stick of DDRAM later on, it won't be possible to use them both at the same time.

i heard about 30$ more expensive at each stick starting in the next month.

quote:Originally posted by TimisoaraKill:
i heard about 30$ more expensive at each stick starting in the next month.

I might but it before the rest of the system then. Makes sense to get it while its cheap.
BTW Is the T-bird 800 worth the extra $$$ over the Duron 800.
I'll run a Hedgehog or super orb with it and try to hit 1ghz

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Thanks is 173w the most powerful they make i was more after dual 250w setup . If you can get 1.2ghz out of a 566 i figure i can get 1.3ghz out of mine.

I think you should go for a dual Drift0.8 setup- You honestly don't need more, and if you do, I either recommend stacking or a second stage cooler, IE you have three waterblocks like this:

radiator (must be able to handle 860-1200W)
waterblock
4-6 Drift0.8
waterblock (chills water to sub zero)
waterblock
1 Drift0.8
coldplate
CPU

And a big-ass powersupply....

Duckman

quote:Originally posted by Rogue:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TimisoaraKill:
[b]i heard about 30$ more expensive at each stick starting in the next month.

I might but it before the rest of the system then. Makes sense to get it while its cheap.
BTW Is the T-bird 800 worth the extra $$$ over the Duron 800.
I'll run a Hedgehog or super orb with it and try to hit 1ghz

[/B][/QUOTE]

You are better to buy an 800 thunderbird be cause of cache in games@256 full time speed and l1 128 a lot better cache quality than duron .
As for cooless the orb for an o.c. @ 1 ghz is not enough .
The hedgehog however is verry nice thunder performer for 800@1000mhz thunderbird .
As for the speed the thunderbird is 8% more fast than duron , so the realy difference is the cache what you will need for the future games.
Ad the $$ and go for the t.bird you not gonna regret'it

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
I can't allow that to happen. I recommend TB-8-0.45-1.3 for you (0,4W Qmax).

Duckman

What do u mean by cant allow this to happen ?

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
I think you should go for a dual Drift0.8 setup- You honestly don't need more, and if you do, I either recommend stacking or a second stage cooler, IE you have three waterblocks like this:

radiator (must be able to handle 860-1200W)
waterblock
4-6 Drift0.8
waterblock (chills water to sub zero)
waterblock
1 Drift0.8
coldplate
CPU

And a big-ass powersupply....

Duckman

I was thinking about something like that but i didn't think it could work. My radiator is a aircon cor from a car measuring 1x1m . I dont want to muck about here. I have 3 300w PSU units plus the one i am using atm. I have to car thermo fans to cool the radiator and they draw 45w's each

I was going to do it

Gorb Gorb
45w Pel 45w pel
WaterblockWaterblock
Peliter Peliter
Coldplate
CPU

$30??? WHY? Can't they keep RAM prices falling? Why do they have to increase irregularly like they do now? It doesn't make sense!

I only have 64MB in my system right now and that's pitiful... 25% of 256MB

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:

What do u mean by cant allow this to happen ?

Because then you would be faster than me, that's why

If that radiator is 1x1m, I would say that it will most likely be able to cope with up to 1KW. Mine is a small heatercore from a Ford Fiesta, about 20x30cm, and it cool the water to about 30C. The TECs and CPU puts out roughly 330W.

Duckman

I found 64mg made my hdd read all the time

Sapasion.
Knight 300-350mhz oc ?
General 450mhz+ oc ?
Son of Emperor 650mhz+ oc ?

Looks like a good sytem to me. Makes me and ducky Generals

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
Because then you would be faster than me, that's why

Duckman

I am now

...but only because my puter is in bits and pieces. Wait till my case is finished and the CVoltage is bumped up from 1,75(that's the voltage I use at 1gig) to 2,1V.....

....and then I add the freon cooler......

Duckman

Notice this is the biggest post of sharky and it's just a load of BS hehe

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
...but only because my puter is in bits and pieces. Wait till my case is finished and the CVoltage is bumped up from 1,75(that's the voltage I use at 1gig) to 2,1V.....

....and then I add the freon cooler......

Duckman

I would luv that 2.1v, my cpu still has no heat probs at 1125mhz i have just run out of voltage for the time begin and i dont want to run 2.1v because that is the deagin max for this chip

Yeah, ain't it great??

Seriously, we have done a few constructive postings too, so it's not pure BS...

Duckman

Yer reckon we can get 100 before it dies off.

I just though of this what type of patse do u use beteewn peliters and cpu ect ?

Yowza.

This is one of the fastest growing topics I've ever seen.

quote:Originally posted by BoogyMan:
Yowza.

This is one of the fastest growing topics I've ever seen.

Well, we're all faithfull followers of Emperor Sapasion, so...

I'm back to needing help again. My cpu is maxed out power wise i am running the full 2v my m/b allows for the cpu can take 2.10v but my vcore guages read upto 2.06v when it's set to 2v so i dont want to run 2.05v vcore. My question is how much more power will increasing the i//o voltaghe from 3.3 to 3.5 give my cpu.

Would CPUFSB or SOFTFSB allow me to clock my cpu higher than the bois purely to see what it can do ? provided i can get it more voltage

quote:Originally posted by *-SiNcErE-*:
Catfish *-SiNcErE-* reporting:
confirmed with 256MB in primary system.
now 2 more systems to go.
the duron700@900 can use another 128!!
but for the P-166... I don't know...

Excellent!
Join Us.
Consider Thyself Knighted

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
This overclockin thing is gettin out of hand. Today i overclocked a cyrix 200mx from 180mhz (thats the speed they actully run) to 300mhz using my fop 38 and 3.2v (up from2.9v) hehe. I ran some benchmarks on it at standard speed in sandra lol, It scored alu/ram 80mb/s. fpu/ram 84mb/s, interger mmx 394 it/s, fpu 82 it/s and cpu scpes of 436 and fpu 165.

SOme real power there hehe .

Sapasion i am getting a voodoo5 for chrissy instead of a gf2 gts. I am going to overclock it with goldern orbs , how do you think i should attach them ?

Personally I use BlueOrb's for video cards. They're so much smaller in terms of profile. That and I don't have the room for the full size Golden Orb. All but one pci slot is filled on my mobo. The BlueOrb actually has a fan that spins 500-600 faster than the GOrb. I believe HardOCP verified that a BOrb cools to within 1ºC of a GOrb on a gpu. Plus regarding attaching, BOrbs just snap into place [at least on nVidia cards]. Otherwise Arctic Silver now comes in an epoxy.

quote:Originally posted by Angelus:
Emperor Sapasion,

voluntering to participate in the European part of the Beatdown

SIR!

PS: where do i go to get my sword?

Let it be so!
Consider yourself knighted
We need to fortify our European Division. My man TimisoaraKill is already there but [as in overclocking] more is always better.

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
[b]Sapasion, you're really scary, you know that?? I mean, you registered in sep 2000 and have close to 3.5k posts. I registered at HardwareCentral in jul99, I'm admin there, and have close to 1.9k posts.....do you have a autofire button on your mouse that is so fast that the flood control don't get time to kick in or what??

Anyway, can I be a knight too, or am I still just your court jester??

Duckman

[/B]

I am honored by the compliment Duckman. By all means join us. With the system you've got you're more than a knight. Create a title for yourself. Of course court jester is fine is you want it

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
I only have 64MB in my system right now and that's pitiful... 25% of 256MB

64
For your own safety, I would not admit that around here my friend.
If I recall you're somewhere in the mid-east? Though it might be difficult for you, try to acquire some more ram. Even where you live I'm sure you can order some online for delivery, can't you?

I was planning on purchasing a 128MB PC-133 DIMM for quite some time, and when I finally placed the order, I saw it was for sale for $87 bucks Canadian, so I was like "Damn, snag me another one. I was going in expecting to pay 120-160, so I might as well do it "

Good job man!
Yeah that's the whole point of this. It only makes economical sense to move up to 256.

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
64
For your own safety, I would not admit that around here my friend.
If I recall you're somewhere in the mid-east? Though it might be difficult for you, try to acquire some more ram. Even where you live I'm sure you can order some online for delivery, can't you?

Oh, I can FIND RAM round here alright, but I have to shell out some cash for a new CPU and CD drive, I used to have 2 64MB sticks, but one of them blew up

What I hate is that a stick of high-quality PC133 CAS 2 will cost me $175, and I can only afford $100, so I guess it'll be 128MB for me

Well i've got an interesting little bit of info. I have a friend i met on the internet she works for intel in there proccesor devolpment labs.

I was telling and showing her my cpu last night over the webcam and she said that she would send me an instrution set on how to unlock the multiplyer. She said it's pretty complex thing to do but it should work. You guys will be the first to know if it does. 150mhz FSB celeron yes plz. Also she told me linking the L2 on the bottom of the chip wouldn't work, Intel had though of this and the cache links inside the chip to a seprate ponit and connecting them would more than likely fry your chip.

She also said the .13mircon p3's will over clock as fast as you want to take them and intel was trying to limit there overclockablity (bastards) .

Now i dont know how much of this is true. I belevie her she has an intel tech ID and an intel email address so maybe.

Now THIS is hot news... unlocking the multiplier on Celerons, maybe not that great an advantage.... how are you going to run it on a 150 FSB??? The question you should've asked is: how can I enable 256KB cache on my cC0???

Maybe I should 'cheap out' and get PC133 CAS 3... do brands like Toshiba & Samsung make CAS 3? I've only seen CAS 2 by them

The thing is... with PC133 CAS 3, the stuff isn't guaranteed with Athlon systems, which is what I'll most probably upgrade to

Don't skimp on ram for an AMD system. Make sure you order amd certified sticks.

sapasion: Celeron II 600, Abit Slotket!!! and 256 megs PC-133 ordered and on their way asap... *takes a knee* Oh yes, I will hit a gig with that 600... provided that my old 128 meg stick will go high enough...

Rise young overclocker.
Join us now.
You are on the right path.

So do I get any place as a knight in your army of over clockerÂ's

Celeron 300a@500
dfi mobo
Voodoo3 3000
1 WD 10.2
Smart and friendly 8X cdr
Live value
128 pc100

quote:Originally posted by clone:
So do I get any place as a knight in your army of over clockerÂ's

Celeron 300a@500
dfi mobo
Voodoo3 3000
1 WD 10.2
Smart and friendly 8X cdr
Live value
128 pc100

With a 300a@500 consider thyself knighted.
Go forth and convert others as disciples of OC.

do me a favor look at my celron 600 thread i need a reply on that it will sway me ording the chip from maxgroup or me not to order the chip the only reson i wan to order it is to go where no man has gon before othere then fatz

sapasion, I built a new system for my brothers(you probley know as you are everywhere in this forum ). But they only have 128 ram! Now I was wondering..I'm on a budget on there system. So is it better to wait and buy DDR ram for myself and give them my 256 or what?

Thanks for the time.

Wow, we're getting a lot of people behind the cause. If we keep going at this rate we may have to migrate to another forum to find more people to convert.

Well, I guess I am in T-Bird 900@1000, just did it, I'll see how far she goes.

quote:Originally posted by Phoenix:
Well, I guess I am in T-Bird 900@1000, just did it, I'll see how far she goes.

Keep going I smell another 100Mhz.
BTW, remind of your total cooling package?

quote:Originally posted by Acceptable_Risk:
Wow, we're getting a lot of people behind the cause. If we keep going at this rate we may have to migrate to another forum to find more people to convert.

This forum will become like a magnet; drawing others to it/us I see this forum currently ranks second in terms of overall numbers to Tech Support. Admittedly, I visit the others ones too. But, this is home.

Hehe...no complaints!

Sushi to Goldfish in 10 days (that's what I do as a campus lab monitor )

You should of seen my fellow geeks on campus (the few and the proud...sniff) drop their mouths when they saw those RAM prices...

Hoowah! I guess it's time to get a PC100 128 MB DIMM!

Amish - Running a foobared Win2K with 16 colors - but still posting!

quote:Originally posted by Amish_Chief:
Hehe...no complaints!

Sushi to Goldfish in 10 days (that's what I do as a campus lab monitor )

You should of seen my fellow geeks on campus (the few and the proud...sniff) drop their mouths when they saw those RAM prices...

Hoowah! I guess it's time to get a PC100 128 MB DIMM!

Amish - Running a foobared Win2K with 16 colors - but still posting!

Why not get two while you're at it

OK your Royal Imperial Emperor Sir, I just finished increasing the FSB on this ol' Asus P5A rev1.04 to take this K6-III+ 450 to 560 MHz. May you have mercy on this poor ol' socket 7 as I humbly ask your grace in bestowing upon thyself the honorable title of Squire amoungst you Knights (cabin boy will suffice).

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Ask Santa for 128
Avoid the beat down.

Yes, that's a good gift! Thank goodness broadband doesn't need to be added to the list (got cable on monday...going from a 26400 baud connection....vvvvvvvrrrrrrroooooom!)

Amish

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Why not get two while you're at it

One for XMas gift, one for ME!

Amish

Just past the 100th post in this thread. Should we go for 200?

quote:Originally posted by voxman:
OK your Royal Imperial Emperor Sir, I just finished increasing the FSB on this ol' Asus P5A rev1.04 to take this K6-III+ 450 to 560 MHz. May you have mercy on this poor ol' socket 7 as I humbly ask your grace in bestowing upon thyself the honorable title of Squire amoungst you Knights (cabin boy will suffice).

Rise my young apprentice. Consider thyself knighted. I shall not have thee as a mere squire. Nay to a cabin boy as well [I saw that Chris Elliot movie ]. Go forth and convert disciples in OC.
I don't see or hear of many K6-3's anymore. Nice little OC there though. Eventually you will of course join us with a bigger OC of a newer cpu.

I think a friend of mine deserves a smackdown for maxing out one of his boxes with 3 256MB DIMMS (PC100 on a Tyan Mobo w/Win2K and Dual Celery 500's). He paid over $1000 at my old workplace (Milwaukee PC) for the generic RAM.

I don't have any beef with my old employer...but when I asked him why he did it..."Because I Can!"

Well, to my friend I say...you should have now.

Amish

While my system is stock with only half of the required memory I can guarantee to double the memory and to have an oc'ed celery by December 26th. My posts on the other hand will probably remain low since $ won't increase those numbers.

quote:Originally posted by Amish_Chief:
Yes, that's a good gift! Thank goodness broadband doesn't need to be added to the list (got cable on monday...going from a 26400 baud connection....vvvvvvvrrrrrrroooooom!)

Amish

I imposed the RAM beat-down because that is within everyones control. Everyone can get their system to have 256 inside of it. Broadband, while totally desirable, is out of many people's hands. We who have this priviledge can only hope others can be as fortuneate as soon as possible.

Imperial Emperor Sapasion Sir:

I ask to be apprenticed into the community. I have converted three fellow students at my campus to visit sharky, after seeing the memory prices (of all things!)...and another friend of the family made me bookmark the site as soon as I showed him (guess?) THE MEMORY PRICES!

Seriously, that's not joking at all. Those prices have gotten people talking, even among semi/partial-geeks. I've never seen RAM cause so much of a stir.

May I be apprenticed into the order? The AmIsH_ChIeF wishes to join the ranks of the zealous.

(Ha, overkill is fun!)

Amish

quote:Originally posted by Amish_Chief:
Imperial Emperor Sapasion Sir:

I ask to be apprenticed into the community. I have converted three fellow students at my campus to visit sharky, after seeing the memory prices (of all things!)...and another friend of the family made me bookmark the site as soon as I showed him (guess?) [b]THE MEMORY PRICES!

Seriously, that's not joking at all. Those prices have gotten people talking, even among semi/partial-geeks. I've never seen RAM cause so much of a stir.

May I be apprenticed into the order? The AmIsH_ChIeF wishes to join the ranks of the zealous.

(Ha, overkill is fun!)

Amish

[/B]

Consider thyself knighted. Welcome. Continue to convert disciples to the OC ways.

quote:Originally posted by godsend1:
While my system is stock with only half of the required memory I can guarantee to double the memory and to have an oc'ed celery by December 26th. My posts on the other hand will probably remain low since $ won't increase those numbers.

The beatdown applies to catfish and higher. It is good to hear of your plans though. Nothing pleases me more than to see sushi learning and growing in the ways of OC. By the time you make catfish you will be very well prepared.

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
This forum will become like a magnet; drawing others to it/us I see this forum currently ranks second in terms of overall numbers to Tech Support. Admittedly, I visit the others ones too. But, this is home.

Agree, and the same thing goes for HardwareCentral Forums. even Off topic is far behind. Overclocing ROCKS!!!

oh, I'd like to be Field Marshall and Commander of the sapasion Order. Is that OK with you??

Duckman

Duckman

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
Agree, and the same thing goes for HardwareCentral Forums. even Off topic is far behind. Overclocing ROCKS!!!

oh, I'd like to be Field Marshall and Commander of the sapasion Order. Is that OK with you??

Duckman

Duckman

Let's make it so Field Marshall.

Recruits you say? Scour the forum on Tom's! Whatever rep they may have, there are a few newbies ripe for picking. Convert, we say!

sapasion, you use ICQ?? I've got a few things to discuss with you..

Duckman

Wow we are going well 200 will come about pretty quickly .

I found a place with gf2 ultra's today . And they only cost $849 Aus . Where can i get this atric silver expoxy Sapasion??

Artic Silver epoxy?? Never heard of that, but I know they make thermal paste. Make a search for Artic Silver. Great stuffs...

Duckman

Quick question in between.

Does anybody or has anybody ever used Apacer PC133 RAM. Asking cuz that's about the best I can get at a reasonable price. It's 'supposed to be CAS2 at 133 and CAS3 at 150, but I can't find any info about it.

I can also get Infineon, but that would cost me 40% more.

Getting that RAM now, if any good, would allow me to overclock my future AMD even further then with my current sticks.

quote:Originally posted by Angelus:
Quick question in between.

Does anybody or has anybody ever used Apacer PC133 RAM. Asking cuz that's about the best I can get at a reasonable price. It's 'supposed to be CAS2 at 133 and CAS3 at 150, but I can't find any info about it.

I can also get Infineon, but that would cost me 40% more.

YEP!! I use Apacer. 1 stick of 256meg PC133. It's great, but so far I haven't pushed it further than 140MHz@CAS2...

Duckman

Do any PC133 CAS 3 sticks work with Athlons??? I'm talking about actually running it at 133FSB, not 100

I've got 256MB of ram in my Thunderbird 750@900MHz. Can't seem to get my chip to go much higher, though. I'm already running at 1.82v with a chrome orb. I think this cooler might just be a piece of s*!#. I'll have to see about a Globalwin or Alpha cooler. Any advice would be appreciated.

Setup:

Athlon Thunderbird 750
multiplier enabled with a 2B pencil
Abit KT7 motherboard (didn't spring for the raid version)
GeForce2 MX Hercules Card
Soundblaster Live! Value
40Gig Western Digital 7200RPM (the IBM 45gig crapped out. I was surprised, too)

I need it bad hehe, the celeron HSF is only held on by zip ties and they anit workin real well .

If it really exist, I gotta have some. Imagine putting some of that on your CPU!! That would increase the slug area by 500-800%!!!! Think about that!
*drool*

Duckman

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
If it really exist, I gotta have some. Imagine putting some of that on your CPU!! That would increase the slug area by 500-800%!!!! Think about that!
*drool*

Duckman

I didn't think of that, you could bulid your cpu up with it and have a 100% contact area. Wow celerons would be hitting 1.5ghz like that

For operating at a 112FSB, is it better to have PC100 CAS 3 or PC133 CAS 3???

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
For operating at a 112FSB, is it better to have PC100 CAS 3 or PC133 CAS 3???

This is just a guess, but I would say the PC133 because PC100 would be running at a higher speed then 'normal'.

Overclocking doesn't always work, but I've never heard having problems downclocking to be a problem.

We have atric silver glue , watch me clock 315/500 out of my ultra Http://www.coolpc.com.au/therm.html http://ocz.safeshopper.com/9/cat9.htm?841

Will a blue orb with some atric on it cool much better than my stock ultra HSF ??

Hehe now to decide if a fop32. fop38 or aplha pep66 gets the gpu job

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Will a blue orb with some atric on it cool much better than my stock ultra HSF ??

Ultra not fast enough ?
The few reviews about the Blue Orb I've read would suggest so.

quote:Originally posted by Angelus:
Ultra not fast enough ?
The few reviews about the Blue Orb I've read would suggest so.

Hey if i can get more speed i'll all ways take it , i dont know how big the blue orb is but i was thinking maybe i could put then on the ultra's memory chips , anyone know if they will fit ?

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
I imposed the RAM beat-down because that is within everyones control. Everyone can get their system to have 256 inside of it. Broadband, while totally desirable, is out of many people's hands. We who have this priviledge can only hope others can be as fortuneate as soon as possible.

Actually....

I'm somewhat of a specialist in this area, having researched options for this until the phone company got off their ass and put a local zone router right in my front yard (DSL! DSL! DSL!) and I was actually able to get some form of braodband. Untill then, I was stcuk in the vast technological wasteland of no cable (because the local cable company is run by three brothers who make Jethro Clampett look like a fuggin jeeen-yus, no dsl, and no wireless.

That being said, there are two satellit companies that are rolling out high bandwidth (400kbps) products, one of which is beta-ing with a neighbor right now. Amazing stuff - although there are latency isssues (which are major issues if you are a gamer). All in all, it looks like the tech is rolling along just fine. BTW, there are some new DSL technologies that are coming next year that will expand the area in which DSL is offered. So maybe not this Christmas, but hell, why not:

X-Mas '01 beatdown: High bandwidth access for all!

As for 256MB RAM: My boy, I've already been there, done that. Currently, I'm running 384, and eying some 256MB crucial!

Thoughts for the day: While running a Half-Life server, viewing a 65Meg vid file, downloading my e-mail, and pulling up the latest hi-rez Hubble space telescope photos, I stood up and looked over my monitor, gazed off into the distance, and while my mind touched on those who do not overclock, I said to myself:

"I wonder what the little people are doing today?"

Cheers!

quote:Originally posted by ForceTen:
Thoughts for the day: While running a Half-Life server, viewing a 65Meg vid file, downloading my e-mail, and pulling up the latest hi-rez Hubble space telescope photos, I stood up and looked over my monitor, gazed off into the distance, and while my mind touched on those who do not overclock, I said to myself:

"I wonder what the little people are doing today?"

Cheers!

I like this guy

quote:Originally posted by ForceTen:

Thoughts for the day: While running a Half-Life server, viewing a 65Meg vid file, downloading my e-mail, and pulling up the latest hi-rez Hubble space telescope photos, I stood up and looked over my monitor, gazed off into the distance, and while my mind touched on those who do not overclock, I said to myself:

"I wonder what the little people are doing today?"

Cheers!

I am having an emotional moment, that touched me

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
For operating at a 112FSB, is it better to have PC100 CAS 3 or PC133 CAS 3???

PC-133

ForceTen! You're still around! I remember when I was expensive sushi you were a new catfish, now I'm almost genetic and you're STILL a catfish!

Know what I've been thinking? Why buy a celeron 700 when it's default is 66mhz.. Harder than hell to overclock, when you can get something like a 533a (If you can find them) or a 566 and push the FSB so you can get 700+ and w/ a higher FSB, it will out perform the 700/66 clock for clock. Just pulling things out of my brain, its still early here.

I am a shark now !!!

I test ran my watercooler today on my old cyrix system ran great for a few hours until the cyrix died i got condsation under the chip any idea how to fix this. I was running with a small socket 7 HSF attched to the back of the socket area. ?

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
ForceTen! You're still around! I remember when I was expensive sushi you were a new catfish, now I'm almost genetic and you're STILL a catfish!

I go for quality, not quantity.

Besides, Half-Life rules my life!

keep this thread goin and it might beat teh asus+t-bird post...

quote:Originally posted by Duckman:
Artic Silver epoxy?? Never heard of that, but I know they make thermal paste. Make a search for Artic Silver. Great stuffs...

Duckman

Here's two links to it.
http://www.plycon.com/grease.htm
http://millisec.safeshopper.com/39/430.htm?226

Ill keep it going....
cky reporting 4 duty sir. 256 pc133 cas2 at my disposal to use with deadly force in cs games.

quote:Originally posted by CKY:
Ill keep it going....
cky reporting 4 duty sir. 256 pc133 cas2 at my disposal to use with deadly force in cs games.

A most deadly arsenal there cky. Nice going, very nice.

Wow, seems like a whole revoltion is going on..

I'm really amazed at how many people are jumping on this. It makes me feel special knowing I was part of the leading edge.

Keep up the good work guys.

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
A most deadly arsenal there cky. Nice going, very nice.

If your lookig for another solider here I am with the foam finger. PIII 700 pre cBo @840. 256megs cas 2 Mosel Vitalic PC133. I am about to get me a cCo so I can put the memory to use.
Post# 1000!

Congrats C'Dave!

Hey Sapasion, do you have a special honor for genetic knights like C'Dave?

quote:Originally posted by James:
Congrats C'Dave!

Hey Sapasion, do you have a special honor for genetic knights like C'Dave?

Yeah, don't forget about me

how bout
GRAND LORD EMPOROR SAPASION SUPREMTH MAXIMUS
..um er ...or not heh.. sorry

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Here's two links to it.
http://www.plycon.com/grease.htm
http://millisec.safeshopper.com/39/430.htm?226

Jolly good sire, jolly good. Thee shall be generously rewarded. Thee shall even become a knight of my Order.

Kneel before my feet, and vow to serve me to eternity.

Duckman

::::FATS::::

Try using vaseline on the pins under your CPU, that's what I did

Can I be forgiven for using only 192MB???

Looks like they closed (not deleted) the thread about A7V+Tbird 900... first time I've ever seen a thread 'closed'

Try looking at the for sale forum, chad is a very strict mod. Ive seen 3 closed this week, for something that was 1/4 of the crap that goes on the video forum.
Would i need to get more than 256mb ram for when i switch to win2k this Christmas?

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
::::FATS::::

Try using vaseline on the pins under your CPU, that's what I did

Thanks i'll give that a go i got one more shit system i can root up

Also with y ultra i can only clock the ram to 500mhz for some reason at 501mhz my screen goes funny any ideas ?

can I be knighted?
I've got a tbird 750@1000 tried 1.1gig but it would'nt run stable even with 1.85 volts.
I've got pc-133 cas 3 ram running at cas2
and I've got a geforce ddr running at 135,hz and 333mhz ram.

Can I be part of the asian division?

oh yeah!! I've got 256mb of ram too!

Great gobs of goose shit batman, is our fearless leader now a mod? Please say yes..... BTW, i passed my first mcse exam today, i only started 2 months ago. Net ESS down 3(at least) to go till dec 31.

quote:Originally posted by CKY:
Great gobs of goose shit batman, is our fearless leader now a mod? Please say yes..... BTW, i passed my first mcse exam today, i only started 2 months ago. Net ESS down 3(at least) to go till dec 31.

cONGRATS .

All hail the mighty Emperor Sapasion.
Those white shark tetth look so cool

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
cONGRATS .

All hail the mighty Emperor Sapasion.
Those white shark tetth look so cool

Now get your ass over to my place and network me, baby!

What you need sapasion is a Expensive Sushi shoe-shine boy, I can start there and work my way up. I only have 128MB MemMan PC133 Infineon SDRAM on a Asus A7V with a 900Mhz T-bird at 1000Mhz with a crappy Cool Master HSF, 4 fans, and the case off. I can almost break 1100Mhz if I open the window at night. One time I had the case temp below 15C and the cpu temp around 30C. Thats my extent of cooling and overclocking. But I am at your disposal my liege. Hopefully I will get another stick of RAM for X-mas. Wheres the shoe polish?

Eman

Must make Catfish ... need another 128Mb RAM ... avoid beat down

My first post as a moderator

The whole OC Knights experience has been [and hopefully will continue to be] a most enjoyable one for me and for many others here. However, reviewing things I have come to a few insights.
While I am titanically humbled and honored by the outpouring of support, devotion and allegiance to Imperial Emperor sapasion, I too answer to high powers.
Duckman should be [and is in my book] given even a higher place in this OC universe than I.
Which brings up the whole purpose of the OC Knights to begin with. The first OC Knight Acceptable_Risk was commissioned to go forth and convert disciples in the ways of OC. Every knight I have commissioned since has also received a similar message. Thus, if an OC Knight should pledge allegiance to any entity, it should be to OC itself . Even Duckman and I live to serve OC itself.
Therefore and henceforth I will no longer be referring to myself as Imperial Emperor. Make no mistake though my mission is still to instill in others the desire and know-how to OC. Furthermore, I do not discourage OC Knights from continuing to refer to themselves as such. Most importantly, all current and future OC Knights should still continue on with the original commission to convert others.
The Bottom Line will be and is the continuing proclamation of the fruits of OCing. As a moderator now, I pledge to continue to do my small part in the conversion and continuing education of OCers.

Now Let's Really Get Going!
Let's Make the OC Forum Sharky's #1 Forum

dot let the knights thread die keep it alive

quote:Originally posted by clone:
dot let the knights thread die keep it alive

A most respectful *bump* for Sapasion.

quote:Originally posted by clone:
dot let the knights thread die keep it alive

I'll be here. I'll always be here. While our leader may have moved on to bigger and better things, I'll continue the mission. Those who wish may follow me.

Let me be the first to offer my congrats on your achieving the much deserved position of moderator.
All Hail the Master OC!

I will contunie the fight for the cause. The o/c must go on

quote:Originally posted by lmpulse:
can I be knighted?
I've got a tbird 750@1000 tried 1.1gig but it would'nt run stable even with 1.85 volts.
I've got pc-133 cas 3 ram running at cas2
and I've got a geforce ddr running at 135,hz and 333mhz ram.

Can I be part of the asian division?

Consider thyself knighted. Go forth and convert others, making fellow disciples of OC. Asian division, yeah we need some of that. Swear your allegiance to OC itself.

quote:Originally posted by Acceptable_Risk:
I'll be here. I'll always be here. While our leader may have moved on to bigger and better things, I'll continue the mission. Those who wish may follow me.

Again, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not leaving the sheep. If anything I'll be here even more . The only message I'm trying to convey is that all the OC Knights should understand that their allegiance is not to me [flattering though it is] but rather to OC itself. If it makes anyone comfortable to continue to think of me as a leadership presence by all means do so. However, also remember that I too serve OC. We are all merely disciples in one sense.

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
I will contunie the fight for the cause. The o/c must go on

Indeed it will always go on. I sincerely appreciate the tremendous knowledge and counsel being circulated by yourself, A_R and countless other OC knights. It makes my job a lot easier and enables me to go more in depth in the posts I am able to respond to.

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Again, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not leaving the sheep. If anything I'll be here even more . The only message I'm trying to convey is that all the OC Knights should understand that their allegiance is not to me [flattering though it is] but rather to OC itself. If it makes anyone comfortable to continue to think of me as a leadership presence by all means do so. However, also remember that I too serve OC. We are all merely disciples in one sense.

Oh, so we're sheep now huh?

baaah

Didn't like the mized analogies huh?
OK I'm not leaving the school.
[Is that right? Is a group of sharks a school?]

Sapasion i do my best.

I know nothing about 3dmark 200 and i wont pretend to. Is 4731 a good score ofr 1280x1024x32 with FSAA 4x on using hardware d3d t&l ?

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:

Thanks i'll give that a go i got one more shit system i can root up

Also with y ultra i can only clock the ram to 500mhz for some reason at 501mhz my screen goes funny any ideas ?

Also spray polyurethane around your CPU and on the backside of your mobo to make them waterproof.. and fix some foam around your CPU... put thermal grease inside your Slot (if you have a Slot 1 mobo) hope this helps

Actually, sharks act more like packs than schools. Good job Sapasion!

quote:Originally posted by surf:
Actually, sharks act more like packs than schools. Good job Sapasion!

Yeah, I like the "pack" better.

Must keep this thread on the first page!

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Sapasion i do my best.

I know nothing about 3dmark 200 and i wont pretend to. Is 4731 a good score ofr 1280x1024x32 with FSAA 4x on using hardware d3d t&l ?

You bet it is. That's about the same score I get with my celeron and Mx at 1024x768. The heavily reliance of 3dmark2000 on the video card prodcues this.

Thank you all for that help.

The water cooler has been running for 20hr straight on a k6-2 300@333 (wont run any faster :P, i am only useing 66mhz FSB). It's been running seti, prime95 and converting mp3's to wav files. I dont think i will transfer the setup to my cel today. I'll wait until the k6-2 finishs what i have set it up to do.

I am going to buy a T-Bird 1.1-1.2ghz Chip for a second pc. What are your honest opions of these cpu's ?

Also what m/b should i get ddr / sdr. Is there anthing i should be aware of when buying a t-bird ?

Thanks faTs

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
I am going to buy a T-Bird 1.1-1.2ghz Chip for a second pc. What are your honest opions of these cpu's ?

Also what m/b should i get ddr / sdr. Is there anthing i should be aware of when buying a t-bird ?

Thanks faTs

don't think a tbird 1.1 -1.2 is really worth it..overclock some 900-950 chip to those speeds...
get the abit kt7 raid..or the msik7tpro2a
you can overclock thru the bios and not have to fiddle with jumpers and dipswitches.

Dont let this thread die, Hit 200 and then let it go........

Oh btw my cpu is running 133x9 = 1197mhz (1.2ghz) @1.95v i/o 3.3. I haven't try any lower yet or any faster clockspeeds . I am just making sure it all runs well on the cel system.

i have read around the internet and haven't found a CRYSTAL clear explanation for AMD unlocking. PLEASE HELP ME?

AMD 1GHZ@1GHZ cuz i dun't know how to unlock

quote:Originally posted by urashima:
i have read around the internet and haven't found a CRYSTAL clear explanation for AMD unlocking. PLEASE HELP ME?

AMD 1GHZ@1GHZ cuz i dun't know how to unlock

You may not be able to get much higher than a gig but it's worth a shot.

Here's the deal:
Look around the core of your CPU. You should see several little golden bridges. Some of them are broken some are not.
Find the ones labeled L1. Now, take a pencil and connect each one to the one directly across from it. Make sure you use plenty of lead and don't cross any connections.

For lack of any better ideas,
can I be Knighted Captain Obvious - Defender of Common Sense???
j/k

thanks!!!!! i'm gonna attempt to hit 1250mhz

Hail Sapasion! yes i know the hailing stopped at about page 10 of this post.

Ah, to hell with it!
Hail!

I am with Fats, lets get this baby over 200, then let it die with dignity.

Hail Sapasion!

quote:Originally posted by Eman:
I am with Fats, lets get this baby over 200, then let it die with dignity.

Hail Sapasion!

Are you guys still milking this thread??

Just thought I add to it. 8)

WW

quote:Originally posted by W__Wallace:
Are you guys still milking this thread??

Just thought I add to it. 8)

WW

What does the first "W" in W_Wallace stand for?

quote:Originally posted by Phoenix:
What does the first "W" in W_Wallace stand for?

William. For William Wallace of Scottish history. And yeah, they made that movie Braveheart. I'm not from Scotland, although I have been there (I live in Michigan), and I respect what he fought for. Using that name reminds me of that.

WW

quote:Originally posted by W__Wallace:
William. For William Wallace of Scottish history. And yeah, they made that movie Braveheart. I'm not from Scotland, although I have been there (I live in Michigan), and I respect what he fought for. Using that name reminds me of that.

WW

I thought so, my dad's name is William Wallace

quote:Originally posted by Phoenix:
I thought so, my dad's name is William Wallace

Now that's a name to be proud of!!

WW the Fake

My name is FaTs, Mr FaTs.

This message of mine should prolong this thread well past 200 posts, since that's what someone asked for.

I have justed noticed that as I type, this Forum has closed to within 1000 posts of Tech Support [the Grand-Daddy of them all]. I'd love to see us overhaul them. We are quite a ways behind in terms of topics and quite honestly I doubt we'd every catch them there given the nature of that Forum. But we once were over 2000 posts adrift.
Just giving us all a goal to strive towards.
Mind you I'm not calling for a mindlessly cheap attempt to boost post counts. Because I'll be the first one to delete useless nonsense. I'm just saying to continue the great work and advice giving that the OC Knights [as well as some non-Knights] have been distributing.

As they say in The Waterboy "You can do it!"

Getting closer to Tech Support boys good work!

I've got a story here FaTs and others can appreciate.

So I'm typing away here in the Forums and then I just say to myself why not. Why not run my 533a on a FSB of 133 and go for one of those 2x OC's. So I restart and enter my bios; making small tweaks like changing my memory settings from 2 to 3 and then power down. I adjust my slotket to 2.0v and power back up. It posts 133x8 1066Mhz. Then it hangs I could not get past the start up screen. I fiddle-faddled with it for like 20 minutes, I finally shut down and have returned to my modest 920Mhz.

Now only 2 guys on overclockers.com cpu database have reached this plateau and one of them had a Peltier/WaterCooler. The fact that I could at least post tells me to go for another round. Mind you I was using just my Orb for that post at 1066. I'll get my Alpha back if I can [don't know who's using it now but at least it's not stolen ] and try again.

Greed, a key component of the true OC'er. The same greed that will push FaTs too 1.3Ghz will his 600 will push me to 1.06Ghz with my little 533a.

Carry On.

I'm still climbing for the peak. I've found a nice little performance boost for mine *cough*cache256*cough* . Current speed is 1.27ghz, although overclocking is startin to get harder at this speed it seems to have some left, i should have the 1.3ghz barrier by next week if it will go that fast.

You go girl. Thats very nice . My cpu wouldn't even post 133mhz FSB without super cooling.

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
You go girl.

Anyway, I'd just like to add that this 533a is an oem too. Of course I believe all 533a's are oems. I just remembered who I lent my PEP66 to. Actually I didn't lend it to him. I gave [with no clause for return] it to a friend who was having troubles with a P3 700 cB0. [Good news is the friend's at a decent 980Mhz ] Looks like I'll have to re-order one . Oh well this time I can get a V2 which seem to be oh so slightly better.

Yes yes all cpu's are oem

Do you really think you will get a 100% o/c with just an alpha ?

1008 is right on the doorstep of the cB0's limits if it does it you have one hell of a chip there.

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Yes yes all cpu's are oem

Do you really think you will get a 100% o/c with just an alpha ?

We'll know soon enough.

!Yeah 200!

Oh what the hell, Hail Sapasion.

hail sapasion! master of the art of overclock, grandmaster of the art of forum posting, leader,king,knight emperor of the overclocking community of sharky's forums.

They say steroidsa ren't good for you

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
I'm still climbing for the peak. I've found a nice little performance boost for mine *cough*cache256*cough* . Current speed is 1.27ghz, although overclocking is startin to get harder at this speed it seems to have some left, i should have the 1.3ghz barrier by next week if it will go that fast.

What? What do you mean byt "256"?? Do you mean you enabled the other 128K??

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
What? What do you mean byt "256"?? Do you mean you enabled the other 128K??

I know how to do it and have done it i am just not sure if i'll use it. It seems to Hamper clockspeed's somewhat.

It's not quite as simple as the durons but.

Dont ask me for instructions on how to do it i'll post them up on my webpage when i put all the other crap up.

hail... snow, rain, fob, sunshine!

hehe, while you guys are upping your celerons to 133FSB+, I'm still stuck at 500 with my athlon 500. and using win2k, somehow, I can't play Need4Speed 5. it loads the startup screen for 20 minutes (hdd just buzzing away) and then returns to windows saying virtual memory too low, or something like that, but then, I already have virtual memory set at 1600MB. This never happened in win9x/ME. got any suggestions?

Hey...speaking of the OC knights...

Have you guys OC'ed your vid card? I was able to pump my RIVA TNT up to 115 MHz before I started to get GPF's up the wazoo.

Has anybody gotten insane OC results on vid cards (like FaTs on that incredible Celeron?)

quote:Originally posted by Amish_Chief:
Hey...speaking of the OC knights...

Have you guys OC'ed your vid card? I was able to pump my RIVA TNT up to 115 MHz before I started to get GPF's up the wazoo.

Has anybody gotten insane OC results on vid cards (like FaTs on that incredible Celeron?)

My ultra is at 300/500 using a retail celeron HSF

Back four years ago when 32Mb of RAM was the norm, I said that was not enough. Therefore I built a system with twice that. After retiring her last October, I built a new system. Today 128Mb is generally the norm. I say "that is not enough!" I built her with 256Mb RAM. Now with the price drop, I am looking at more.

My new system:
Athlon copper 750@1000 1.75v (haven't gone higher due to heat. Need a new HSF)
Abit KT&-RAID
256Mb PC133 CAS3@CAS2 (guy said it was CAS3)
IBM ATA-100 30Gig
Enligh 8902
Sparkle 400Watt powersupply

*Bending on one knee with head bowed*
For now, I am a Goldfish, but I humbly ask if I may be knighted for I am thy loyal servant to OC.

quote:Originally posted by Fuzzball:
Back four years ago when 32Mb of RAM was the norm, I said that was not enough. Therefore I built a system with twice that. After retiring her last October, I built a new system. Today 128Mb is generally the norm. I say "that is not enough!" I built her with 256Mb RAM. Now with the price drop, I am looking at more.

Damn right, monday I'm ordering two sticks of Apacer 256Mb CAS2. I don't see RAM getting cheaper anymore.

I guess I'm risking my life by saying this but by any chance oh thou master sapasion happen to own a stock portofolio which includes memory makers?

If i order more ram a few days after Xmas does that count? I have no moeny to spend cause i just bought a video card and the 17 bucks i have left is going towards Xmas presents. After christmas i'll probably order a 256meg stick o pc133.

hey guys, guess what???

I bought mushkin 128MB PC133 CL2 without even knowing!! $96.00CANADIAN DOLLARS.

not bad at all!

quote:Originally posted by *-SiNcErE-*:
hey guys, guess what???

I bought mushkin 128MB PC133 CL2 without even knowing!! $96.00CANADIAN DOLLARS.

not bad at all!

Holy? Where'd u get the ram?

Take a look at what I'm running now... Sold my other system, getting an Intel setup now. 256 Ram? Bring it on, buddy, I'm getting a new mobo/video card first! Then, it's twin 128 meg sticks of Mushkin Rev3 PC133, sitting on an Asus Cusl2-C, gonna see if I can run my 700 retail (sl45y) on a 150 Mhz bus, at Cas2. Sweet... What kind of cooling do you guys recommend? I got a 700 Duron to 1050 with a Fop32-1. Thinking of a PEP66-38cfm for this P3... What you guys think?

Ya know... I'm thinking of trying out a peltier. Never used one before, but I know about them. Are they hard/dangerous to use?

Can't say that I've used one, but I will say the condensation will cause problems if you don't prevent it. Still think of the OCing you can do. Some of those things hog wattage I think. That might be a problem for me with all my crap.

I don't have much, 300 Watt p/s, one HD, one CD-rom. I'm really looking at a 72 watt peltier setup, pep66-38 from Millisec for $66 after s/h.... Sounds good, and the speed. About the condensation (I'm poor, I can't afford many dead parts) isn't there a sealant you can spray your mobo with, to make it pretty much H2O proof?

And, ah, does anyone know how to tell the diff between the Al and Cu Tbirds? Used to be color coded, how about lately?

now I'm really confused.
well, according to other people, they say the logo imprinted on my memory modules are "mushkin", but now some guy says just because the logo is there, it doesn't mean its mushkin. how does that work?

anyway, I drew up the logo for my ram:
http://cde.ugate.net/testing.bmp

this image is only seen on the black rectangular modules itself. on the actual piece of ram, all I could see is a serial number. does that mean its not really mushkin? cuz that guy is saying its generic brand. anyway, its really confusing now and the only thing I'm sure of is that its 128MB PC133 CL2 ram.

Just go download SiSoft Sandra, and run the Mainboard test. It'll tell you if it's Mushkin or not

quote:Originally posted by d-zen:
I guess I'm risking my life by saying this but by any chance oh thou master sapasion happen to own a stock portofolio which includes memory makers?

LOL
NO I have no stock in memory companies; that would be a little unethical IMO. Not to mention skirting the AUP boundaries a bit.

For the past day, I have worked hard to achieve Catfish. With 100+ posts and 256Mb of RAM in my system (and looking for more), may I have the honor to be an OC Knight?

uh. sandra doesn't seem to work on my win2k server. it just keeps loading and loading but never getting out of that intro screen.

same with need4speed5. it just keeps loading and loading at the intro screen until it runs out of physical and virtual memory where it'll just return to windows.

That's odd. I'm pretty sure SiSoft works on Win2k. Did you d/l SiSoft 2001?

quote:Originally posted by *-SiNcErE-*:
now I'm really confused.
well, according to other people, they say the logo imprinted on my memory modules are "mushkin", but now some guy says just because the logo is there, it doesn't mean its mushkin. how does that work?

anyway, I drew up the logo for my ram:
http://cde.ugate.net/testing.bmp

this image is only seen on the black rectangular modules itself. on the actual piece of ram, all I could see is a serial number. does that mean its not really mushkin? cuz that guy is saying its generic brand. anyway, its really confusing now and the only thing I'm sure of is that its 128MB PC133 CL2 ram.

Ok, the logo on the memory modules comes from the manufacturer that makes the memory chips themselves, Mushkin, like almost all RAM companies, doesn't make their own memory chips. They use Infineon chpis, but they are hand picked so they get the best that Infineon makes, Infineon chips are also on generic memory, it's just that it isn't as high of quality of chips as Mushkin's are. I think that Mushkin might use Hyuandi chips as well, but Infineon chips are used on all of their lastest modules. I hope this clears things up a bit.

I've had 256MB of Mushkin High Rev2 memory in my system since they first came out and when people still thought that 64MB was standard and 128MB was a lot.

quote:Originally posted by GHz:
I've had 256MB of Mushkin High Rev2 memory in my system since they first came out and when people still thought that 64MB was standard and 128MB was a lot.

Man, that must have been expensive!

FaTs Tip of the day:

CUSL2's dont like to go swimming

well ive been reading this topic for hours...=o] i had lots o laughs...i was wondering if you could help an old overclocker from Greece. (though i didn't overclock my spectrum 48k i managed some huge modifications!!)
im havin problems with my 500e
i can easily get up 2 720mhz but at 720-750(750 is my p3v4x's max coz its rev1) i get hang ups during heavy load (3dmark,q3 etc)...
and i dont know what the prob is coz the cpu's temp seems real nice (especially in winter=oP)
i dont think its the tnt2 ultra i have coz i got the 1/2 divider so 75 isn't that much...
could it be the memory?
i got a pc133 cas3 stick...(i think its siemens?)
also using:
modified fdp32 for cumine
several fans in my addtronics case
sblive
quantum fireball kx
diamond tnt2 ultra at 173/240
i also use ARCTIC SILVER great STUFF
+h-oda's GREAT WPCRSET (great perfomance ganed in memory but i get a blue screen sometimes because of WPCRSET on my win ME)

my temp is 26-30 at windows and 40-50 during gameplay
during netplay the cpu load is much higher so i sometimes go past 60
any suggestions would be apreciated fot an OC Night Wannabe from Greece

quote:Originally posted by Freestyles:
well ive been reading this topic for hours...=o] i had lots o laughs...i was wondering if you could help an old overclocker from Greece. (though i didn't overclock my spectrum 48k i managed some huge modifications!!)
im havin problems with my 500e
i can easily get up 2 720mhz but at 720-750(750 is my p3v4x's max coz its rev1) i get hang ups during heavy load (3dmark,q3 etc)...
and i dont know what the prob is coz the cpu's temp seems real nice (especially in winter=oP)
i dont think its the tnt2 ultra i have coz i got the 1/2 divider so 75 isn't that much...
could it be the memory?
i got a pc133 cas3 stick...(i think its siemens?)
also using:
modified fdp32 for cumine
several fans in my addtronics case
sblive
quantum fireball kx
diamond tnt2 ultra at 173/240
i also use ARCTIC SILVER great STUFF
+h-oda's GREAT WPCRSET (great perfomance ganed in memory but i get a blue screen sometimes because of WPCRSET on my win ME)

my temp is 26-30 at windows and 40-50 during gameplay
during netplay the cpu load is much higher so i sometimes go past 60
any suggestions would be apreciated fot an OC Night Wannabe from Greece

Nice little system you got there. Maybe your HDD is feeling the high pci speeds , but prolly not. What cpu voltage are running ?. 60c is bit on the hot side , i dont like my cpu's going past 48-49c under max load. Your problem sounds like lack of voltage/overheating. How is your fop32 modified ?

Maybe you should buy a fop38 fan for it too help it cool better.

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:

Nice little system you got there. Maybe your HDD is feeling the high pci speeds , but prolly not. What cpu voltage are running ?. 60c is bit on the hot side , i dont like my cpu's going past 48-49c under max load. Your problem sounds like lack of voltage/overheating. How is your fop32 modified ?

Maybe you should buy a fop38 fan for it too help it cool better.

thanks for replyin :P
well i don't think it's the hdd the voltage is 1.6 and i was thinkin of raising it and i did (1.65) but i saw no difference i'll try even more my cpu's normalo voltage is 1.55 i think (500e only)
i have an alpha heatsink but i get higher temps and i dont think its that well attached anyway thanks to my damn poor quality nonamed ****in fcpga adapter;(
the modification to the fdp32 is that i took an iron rasp(?) and with lots o chattering i managed to saw off the one side coz the adapter's base was kinda high...

hey i didn't know u can't swear!!!!
well what i ment is my DAMNED FC-PGA ADAPTER:P

quote:Originally posted by Phoenix:
Ok, the logo on the memory modules comes from the manufacturer that makes the memory chips themselves, Mushkin, like almost all RAM companies, doesn't make their own memory chips. They use Infineon chpis, but they are hand picked so they get the best that Infineon makes, Infineon chips are also on generic memory, it's just that it isn't as high of quality of chips as Mushkin's are. I think that Mushkin might use Hyuandi chips as well, but Infineon chips are used on all of their lastest modules. I hope this clears things up a bit.

just in case you didnt know, that logo is a Mosel Vitelic logo which Mushkin modules use

quote:Originally posted by Doward:
That's odd. I'm pretty sure SiSoft works on Win2k. Did you d/l SiSoft 2001?

no, I was still using 2000. maybe that's why. but anyway, isn't the win2k version of sisoft called 'samantha' or something like that? anyway, I'll try 2001 when I find the dam thing!

May I ask what this is all about? If you're a good Overclocker you'll get into Spasions clan or something?

quote:Originally posted by slipgun:
Man, that must have been expensive!

I like being the first one on the block

quote:Originally posted by DoGGx23:
May I ask what this is all about? If you're a good Overclocker you'll get into Spasions clan or something?

People with average o/c's can join as knights. Ppl with super o/c's get kewl titles

How much overclocking is required to become a knight? Is it based on system performance or is it raw numbers?

quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
How much overclocking is required to become a knight? Is it based on system performance or is it raw numbers?
Originally it was based on the Ten Commandments of OC, then someone made a formula, but recently it's about anyone who has a motivation for the cause. Guys like FaTs and me have been around forever so we get titles and cool stuff like that. But nearly anyone can join so long as you spread the word.

quote:Originally posted by Fuzzball:
For the past day, I have worked hard to achieve Catfish. With 100+ posts and 256Mb of RAM in my system (and looking for more), may I have the honor to be an OC Knight?

What is your own system's OC?

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
What is your own system's OC?

Athlon 750@1000 (copper) on an Abit KT7-RAID. I don't think I bumped the voltage. I gotta check on that. I know I didn't have to, to get 950.

I could go higher, but I need a better HSF.

quote:Originally posted by DoGGx23:
May I ask what this is all about? If you're a good Overclocker you'll get into Spasions clan or something?

The OC Knights are commissioned to convert, educate and enlighten others in the ways of overclocking. A decent personal OC and knowledge are invaluable. OC Knights should live to serve OC itself and always be willing to share their know-how.

quote:Originally posted by Abit400:
How much overclocking is required to become a knight? Is it based on system performance or is it raw numbers?

What is your personal OC?
That is a factor to be sure.

quote:

quote:Originally posted by Fuzzball:
Athlon 750@1000 (copper) on an Abit KT7-RAID. I don't think I bumped the voltage. I gotta check on that. I know I didn't have to, to get 950.

I could go higher, but I need a better HSF.

Consider thyself knighted. Go forth and make disciples of OCing.

quote:Originally posted by sapasion:
Consider thyself knighted. Go forth and make disciple of OCing.

Yes Sir!

Oo! Oo! 256 MB RAM. DING!

Gett'n the big CPU upgrade for Cristmas. Must...squeeze...every littel bit of speed...out of processor.

Bugspit

You gotta love a girl that buys you computer parts for Cristmas!!!

I need no fancy titles.

Just to sit in the radiant glow of sapasion's awe inspiring mighty overclockingness is all I need.

Sigh. Only 3837 meaningfull, *non-BS*, no spamming posts to reach the devine OCing highness.

Although, there is a lot of patting the self on the back aroung here...

quote:Originally posted by GHz:
I like being the first one on the block

Since you like being the first on your block, how about being the first to send me a check for a large amount of $$$$$$$$$....

I did not know about the beatdown, though I ordered, Fri., a stick of 256 MB RAM. That'll shoot me up to 384 MB of RAM, until I rebuild a smaller system.

You're safe now.

Yo, what about me? I tend to be contradictory, and love to prove others wrong. I don't think I qualify as a "knight" material, but here's my o/c resume...

AMD 486DX4-100@160
Intel P75@120
Intel P133@166
Intel P200@250
Intel Celeron 300A@504
Intel Celeron 400@600 That's right!
Intel Pentium3 (Katmai) 550@616
AMD Duron 700@1050

And next...

Intel 700 cB0 @???? w/ my first go with a peltier setup.

Keep in mind, I'm only 17! ::bows quietly:: My liege, I am at your service.

quote:Originally posted by Doward:
Yo, what about me? I tend to be contradictory, and love to prove others wrong. I don't think I qualify as a "knight" material, but here's my o/c resume...

AMD 486DX4-100@160
Intel P75@120
Intel P133@166
Intel P200@250
Intel Celeron 300A@504
Intel Celeron 400@600 That's right!
Intel Pentium3 (Katmai) 550@616
AMD Duron 700@1050

And next...

Intel 700 cB0 @???? w/ my first go with a peltier setup.

Keep in mind, I'm only 17! ::bows quietly:: My liege, I am at your service.

You certainly have enough of an OC resume.
Just remember to be respectful if you have disagreements or varying opinions. Always be open-minded. Go forth and convert others educating them in the ways of OC.

Consider thyself knighted.

We're closing in on the Tech Support Forum in terms of #'s of total posts. Keep up the excellent work.

hey sapasion! check out my signature- do I qualify for this christmas beat-down gig? Is my OC enough as well? Also, I never got to say it: Congratulations!

quote:Originally posted by iamsostupid:
hey sapasion! check out my signature- do I qualify for this christmas beat-down gig? Is my OC enough as well? Also, I never got to say it: Congratulations!

You certainly have avoided the beatdown
If you're also asking to be a Knight, I believe I am familiar enough with your work to OK it. You do have one of the smaller personal OC's [but at least you're trying that P3 450 doesn't go very high I know]. But that is only one factor. Even more important is a willingness to educate others by sharing all the knowledge you have. Along the way, by open-minded for that is a key element to your personal growth in the ways of OC [and otherwise].

Consider thyself knighted. Go forth and make disciples.

Anyone know of any good free webhosting sites ?. My isp has a hit max on my page, a gay size limit and want me to pay a stupid amout of money just for ppl to look at my fu*kin page.

OK everyone I've finally jumped on the wagon. I now have ICQ. Fire away. [This could put quite a crimp in my posting ]

Hum.. i get exited. I will anticipate the beat-down, though i'm still far away to be a small soldier.

My system:
Duron 700 not OCed yet
GA-7ZX ; PC133 CAS3 generic
Radeon All in 1 32MB
ST-?? 20MB HD ATA100

I want to OC it, but the system locks when i install EasyTune3,
Also when running Sandra for mobo information module.

Anyone can give suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

ok , ,dont wanna get beat down.but i must say i beat you guys to the punch about 3 weeks ago by purchaseing a stick of mushkin 128mb pc133 to bring my grand total up to 256.
also have my cII566 purring at 933.atleast till i get my p3800.hehe

quote:Originally posted by FaTs:
Anyone know of any good free webhosting sites ?. My isp has a hit max on my page, a gay size limit and want me to pay a stupid amout of money just for ppl to look at my fu*kin page.

I use www.domailvalet.com It's rock stable, never failed on me the last year, and it's 20 meg free space with pic linkage enabeled, ie you can link pics from your site to Sharkys

Only prob is that stupid banner they put on the top of each page...have a look: www.duckmanswildpage.com

We're kind of stagnating in terms of making up ground on Tech Support. Seem to be holding right around 500 posts behind. I think the Christmas period is really going to hurt us.