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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: Making a LAN party

    Making a LAN party
    By 1 More Beer May 10, 2001, 05:15 PM

    Alright I have a few questions. Me and about 10 of my friends want to have a LAN party. 2 of the 10 have a network card. What should I look for in recommending network cards to everybody and where can I find some good prices. This is our first LAN party also so if anybody's got anything they can tell me to make it more enjoyable than please do.

    By Nabu_the_Wise May 10, 2001, 08:15 PM

    I would recommend getting a 10/100 pci card. Also I would try to get the same one for everyone. That way the people in the group would be able to help each other (also you could check out the flyers from stores to see what there seems to be a good deal on).

    I would favor some sort of name brand, Netgear, Linksys, and SMC are ones that I like (Personally, Ive only used the older d-link cards to connect to coax but I imagine theyre pretty good to I just cant say from experiance). Intel or 3Com would be great but for home use I still think they want too much money for them. After all, these are mainly for games.

    By 1 More Beer May 10, 2001, 08:31 PM

    Sounds good. I have a few questions about servers. I have a T-Bird 1Ghz and 384MB of ram, do you think I could handle about 10 other people's computers for a game of quake 3 or counter-strike? I don't want to be a dedicated server, I want to be the server but I still want to play. Think I can handle it?
    Also, how should I set up the hub, can I find a hub that supports up to 15 people (in case of larger future LAN Parties) or should I get a few connected together? Is it possible to connect a few. I'm definetly using cat 5 UTP 10/100

    By koby May 10, 2001, 08:32 PM

    Hmm for a simple 10 node lan 10mbps cards should suffice. Hmm. I don't know about you guys but its for me its fairly easy to get used 10mpbs nics for free. I can even get my hands 10/100 mbps nics sometimes too.

    But if you need to buy then I suggest you order like a 10 pack of nics from a discount retailer. My personal picks for nics are 3com and Linksys.

    By muisejt May 10, 2001, 09:53 PM

    quote:Originally posted by 1 More Beer:
    I have a T-Bird 1Ghz and 384MB of ram, do you think I could handle about 10 other people's computers for a game of quake 3 or counter-strike? I don't want to be a dedicated server, I want to be the server but I still want to play. Think I can handle it?

    It can handle CS for sure, I was a sever for 11 others and I still had decent frame rates. I have a PIII 800EB and 256MB RAM. (Complete specs on my site)

    By 1 More Beer May 10, 2001, 10:08 PM

    Awesome, yeah the LAN shouldn't get too much larger than 12 people. I also have a GF 2 GTS, according to your site you have a voodoo 5 5500, pretty much the same frame rates but I think Direct Draw runs better on CS than Glide so I'm pretty safe. Cool, can't wait, it's gonna be my first LAN party. Alright and about the HUBs, anybody know if I can connect more than one?

    By Tekrex May 11, 2001, 04:21 PM

    quote:Originally posted by 1 More Beer:
    Alright and about the HUBs, anybody know if I can connect more than one?

    You can uplink almost any hub. If the hub has an uplink switch, cool. If not you will need a crossover cable. Couple bucks, get the shortest one that will work.

    Two other things. What we do when we LAN is use a couple of Cable\DSL routers, like the linksys and Netgears. Almost everyone I know has broad band and a router like this. And most of them have the one with the four port switch. We don't have as many people as you, usually only 8 or so, but there are a couple of ways you could break this up. Divide the group in to two. each group uses a hub and those two hubs go into the switch and the switch up to the server. We just daisy chain them so that each person has a switched port. We don't use the router portion. Is this really neccesary, probably not, but we like to have fun.

    Secondly, I don't know if you have access to one, but we use a p200 w/64mb for a dedicated server and it rocks!

    By iamsostupid May 11, 2001, 04:41 PM

    try to get a switch for one thing, theyre pretty cheap ($35 for 5 port), and MUCH faster. Also, 10mbps cards cost just as much as 100mbps cards, so go 10/100 32bit PCI with that. As for the card itself, look at Netgear or DLink 10/100mbps models. Theyre only $10 a piece, and probably less on eBay. For THE BEST (im talkin BEST ever) cabling, with THE LOWEST (im talkin LOWEST ever) prices, go to http://www.comcatusa.com/onlinecatalog.html

    50ft of CAT5 is $8!
    100ft of CAT5[b]e[/i] is $15!

    wow..

    By 1 More Beer May 11, 2001, 10:13 PM

    Those are unbelievable prices. Anyway, what you said before about hooking up two hubs with a switch...I'm going to have 12 (so far) so I was thinking 2 8-port hubs all connected to a switch. I'm not sure how this works so maybe you could give me a little more detail. I just realized that I have a lazy (in other words, not used) K6-2 333Mhz with 160MB of ram, that'd work for a nice game of Unreal Tournament or counter-strike for 12 people wouldn't it? Also if anybody knows any good links to setting up a dedicated server or even a non-dedicated server (one that I can use while serving) please link them.

    By Nabu_the_Wise May 12, 2001, 12:55 PM

    The value pack of nics is a great idea!

    By Bateluer May 13, 2001, 12:59 AM

    check out http://www.tweak3d.net's guide to LAN parties as well. Lots of good info.

    By krack_it_up May 14, 2001, 02:20 PM

    well my friend, I have been in your exact shoes. Lan gaming is the reason I got into computers to begin with. First of all, as stated above, I would get all 10/100 Meg cards. they are close enough to the same price that it wont make a difference, but the speed will be ALOT faster. remember everyone at the party has to have a 100 Mb card in order to run that fast. if one card on the networkd is 10Mb, then they will all run at 10 Mb. Next, certainly go with a swtich. NOT A HUB. when you use a hub it divides the total bandwidth across all your users. switches on the other hand switch the full bandwidth between users. It makes a huge difference. especially in games like CS and Q3. Next, you want to have everyone have their NIC installed and working BEFORE they come to the party. otherwise you will spend your entire time configuring and troubleshooting NICs and none of it gaming. You need to decide on all the games you will be palying and find out what type of protocol they use. For example, cs and Q3 both use TCP/IP, but games like Starcraft and Aliens vs Predator use IPX. I would reccomend having EVERYONE install these protocols BEFORE they come.
    Now all you have to do is assign IP addresses and you are off. THis is another thing about gaming. You need to have a list of IPs you can give out. I would reccomend making a sheet of paper and writing out like 20 ips on it. I usually use 10.10.10.2 , 10.10.10.3 , up through 10.10.10.21 or whatever (you can go up to 255). then tell everyone to set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN UNIQUE IP ADDRESS. I cant tell you how much time I have spent trouble shooting problems at LAN parties where 2 people had the same IP. Make sure every one has microsoft file and print sharing turned on. that way you will be able to easily share files between computers. You mentioned that you might want to link 2 switches together, make sure when you buy them that you find out if they will need a cross-over cable. Some have special ports that make it so you dont have to use a cross-over, but some dont. they should be able to help you with that at the computer store. Finally make sure everyone comes with their games installed and are all running the same version. There is so much more I could write here, but I wont. If you have any othe questions, feel free to email me at krack_it_up@hotmail.com I love gaming and love making gaming fun for others. Good luck.


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