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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: Creative, Klipsch or Midland? Please help!

    Creative, Klipsch or Midland? Please help!
    By DVD-Man May 12, 2001, 09:45 AM

    Ok, I am going to buy some new speakers & go out big time.

    I mainly will be wanting the speakers for gaming. A little bit for music & DVD movies!

    Now, I was all set to get the Creative 2500's (heard a bad review on the 3500's) as I really wanted speakers that were 5.1 & surround sound, then I keep hearing that they are crap compared to the Klipsch pro media 4.1's. Only problem is, the Klipsch's are only 4.1, not 5.1...Then I see some people mentioing the midland 5.1 8200's.

    See, I will be using these speakers mainly for gaming, but I did wanna experience a DVD on my computer in 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound...sure I can go buy a DVD player for my TV, but I really can't afford $1000+ for a home theater system for my TV area. If I get the creative's or midlands I can enjoy my DVD's on my PC, tho, I don't know how much I would watch them on my PC as I don't really envision myself enjoying watching moives on my PC, but with 5.1 surround who knows? If I get the Klipsch's I get the best gaming sound right? While gaming is my main point here, so....

    But, a point, one of my main things I REALLY WANTED, was surround sound with my games & everything...if the klipsh's are only 4.1 & not 5.1, then that means they are'nt surround sound right? Whats this virtual 5th channel I hear about? It also means they are'nt digital speakers & can't do any kind of digital sound? Another point, people say that the 5.1 is'nt that important with games, but since they are starting to bring games out on DVD's now, will it become important then? Also, I hear that one of the main reasons that people love the klipsch's so much is because they can get so loud...I don't really need that much loudness, sure I like to crank the volume up a bit, but I'm not going to blast the speakers out.

    So, how do the creative's & midlands stack up to the Klipsch's now, without me needing to blast the speakers?

    About the midland 8200's, I have'nt really heard that much about them so I can't really say much....all I can say is, are they better than the creative's? If so, in what matter? In everyting? DVD's? Games?

    Now, I can't really test all these out to see what I like in a store, as I only know of 1 store around here that has them & he would have to order the creative's in if I wanted them & I don't wanna order them in just so I can test them, so is there anybody out there that has tried all these 3 speaker setups that can give me any input on what would be best suitable for me?

    Remember my points:

    - My main focus is gaming
    - Would LOVE to experience 5.1 surround on my PC to see what it's like, tho I would'nt wanna go for it to take away from my gaming sound
    - REALLY want surround sound in my games & everything
    - Don't need to BLAST my speaker volume (tho still like to turn it up)

    Thanks very much all for reading & any help u give me.

    By Neo May 12, 2001, 12:23 PM

    i've only handled midiland and videologic spekears. and i've got nothing but praises for the midiland 8200's. my sister has a set and most of the time the thing can still out match my sirocco crossfires.in fact it is better at times.

    go read a review at 3dss.com if there is one

    By dchakrab May 13, 2001, 08:00 PM

    4.1 IS surround sound.

    I would take the Midi's over the others, especially over the Creatives. Klipsch for power, midi's for slightly less power, 5.1, decoder, and clarity.

    -D.

    By jgibbs May 14, 2001, 11:38 AM

    The truth is most gaming co. arent tapping into the power of 5.1

    In fact many of the games on the market make poor use of 4.1 surround IMHO. Of course when you play a game that does use surround its a truely wonderful thing.

    Good luck-

    By Bataar May 14, 2001, 04:51 PM

    I don't watch DVDs on my computer so this review is only for gaming and music.

    The Klipsch rock. I haven't used the Midland but have used the Creative Labs and own a set of the Klipsch 4.1. They are the best speakers I have ever used, hands down. Better, even, than my home theater speakers. Even at extremely high volumes, there is no distortion. Klipsch also has the best customer service I've ever had the pleasure to deal with. I did have a problem with my subwoofer and they replaced it with no questions asked. I was amazed.

    By web_hed May 15, 2001, 02:48 AM

    Not only is 4.1 surround sound, but the "5th channel" in 5.1 systems doesn't really exist, it's just another gimmic from the audio companies to get you to buy the new "best product" I too was torn between 4.1 and 5.1 but I learned that if you place the speakers correctly, you will the EXACT same effect from a 4.1 system as a 5.1 system. The fifth channel on a 5.1 sytem is only a blending of the front two channels, and currently there is no media, not a single thing, that has recorded sound in more than four channels, and I seriously doubt that there will ever be. (now before someone starts arguing with me over this, don't confuse "tracks" with "channels") I think the only thing you should be worrying about is whether or not you want digital speakers over analog speakers. The Klipsch speakers are analog, Midiland and Creative are digital. What does that mean? If you are not an audiophile it won't matter to you, but if you are, an analog system will provide deeper and more dynamic tones, while a digital system will provide sharper and clearer tones. Analog speakers will also "hiss" when turned up loud without anything playing on them, however with my experience, the Klipsch 4.1 system will only hiss if it is REALLY cranked up and even then, it is not very significant. You can probably guess that I would recomend Klipsch, however if you are set on digital, go for Midiland. Creative speakers are over-rated and, IMHO not worth what you pay, een though it is usually less thatn either of the other two. So now the question is: Digital or analog? Up to you dude.

    By dchakrab May 15, 2001, 06:35 AM

    quote:Originally posted by web_hed:
    Not only is 4.1 surround sound, but the "5th channel" in 5.1 systems doesn't really exist, it's just another gimmic from the audio companies to get you to buy the new "best product" I too was torn between 4.1 and 5.1 but I learned that if you place the speakers correctly, you will the EXACT same effect from a 4.1 system as a 5.1 system. The fifth channel on a 5.1 sytem is only a blending of the front two channels, and currently there is no media, not a single thing, that has recorded sound in more than four channels, and I seriously doubt that there will ever be. (now before someone starts arguing with me over this, don't confuse "tracks" with "channels") I think the only thing you should be worrying about is whether or not you want digital speakers over analog speakers. The Klipsch speakers are analog, Midiland and Creative are digital. What does that mean? If you are not an audiophile it won't matter to you, but if you are, an analog system will provide deeper and more dynamic tones, while a digital system will provide sharper and clearer tones. Analog speakers will also "hiss" when turned up loud without anything playing on them, however with my experience, the Klipsch 4.1 system will only hiss if it is REALLY cranked up and even then, it is not very significant. You can probably guess that I would recomend Klipsch, however if you are set on digital, go for Midiland. Creative speakers are over-rated and, IMHO not worth what you pay, een though it is usually less thatn either of the other two. So now the question is: Digital or analog? Up to you dude.

    Very good post, webhead...thanks. I was going to mention the digital/analog difference myself, but forgot.

    I would also like to add that although Creative is definitely not the same league as the other two (think of creative and altec as a step down from klipsch and midiland and maybe boston acoustics) they still make good speakers for the lower-end market. A friend of mine has the fps 1000's, which are about $50 or $60 now, and they're GREAT for her dorm room.

    If you're not going to REALLY crank it, and you're not a digital-loving audiophile, you'd probably be better of saving the cash and going with a lower end system.

    Otherwise, it's a toss-up between midi and klipsch. I would try to hear them at a store and decide in person, if at ALL possible.

    -D.

    By Ashpool May 15, 2001, 06:15 PM

    What I'm about to say is totally based on review. Be warned, if necessary.

    4.1: Klipsch. Nothing can beat them. When they released their ProMedia speakers in 1999, everyone that had used them were held in awe. Yet still nothing has beaten them.

    5.1: No, not the Midiland. The VideoLogic DigiTheatre DTS is an excellent 5.1 system. It beat out the MidiLand 8200's in tests from MaximumPC (I use them as a reference all the time). But the MidiLand is better than the DigiTheatre in price, but that's it. DigiTheatre: $600. MidiLand: $300. They're both great, but the DigiTheatre is better.

    By DVD-Man May 15, 2001, 07:18 PM

    Thanks for all the response's peeps!

    But I think i will go with the Midilands, gives me 5.1 & is nearly as good as the Klipsch's for quality.

    The videologics are out of my price range.

    By Neo May 17, 2001, 04:54 AM

    wise choice brother

    By jmike May 19, 2001, 12:02 PM

    Don't!!!! I had the Midilands and sold them to my roomate to buy the Klipsch after hearing them at a friends house. The Midilands are a great setup, but the Klipsch's are that much better. This is coming from someone who has them both in the sam house and I tell you that web_hed is correct on the 5.1 theory. I can tell no difference in the 5 speaker setup vs. the 4 speaker except that sitting at a computer the center is a little too loud and at times overpowers the stereo effect of the front l/r. The gaming experience is where the Klipsch really shows off. Playing UT with the EAX patches is absolutely unbelieveable. The Midilands sound no where near as clean(even though they are digital) as the Klipsch do. Both PCs have SB Live x-gamer 5.1s so the opinion is from identical sound cards.

    By masterxfob May 20, 2001, 04:18 AM

    hehe, i've got a biased opinion. klipsch promedia's are the best speakers you can get right now. i own a set and prefer them over most anything else except for maybe a bose lifestyle home theatre sound system. you know how the boxter is the poor man's porsche? well these are the poor man's bose lifestyles.

    By Neo May 20, 2001, 10:04 AM

    hahah not to start a flame war or anything.. think the kilpsch are really the best? wait till you listen to the videologic digitheatre dts(expensive tho) back to the topic, i'd still put my vote on the midiland 8200's.


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