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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: Do computers get slower the longer you have them?

    Do computers get slower the longer you have them?
    By ArAi July 09, 2001, 03:21 PM

    I just built this system and after installing win98, man does this thing fly...
    i can open any application and in the blink of an eye, its opened. Booting it also takes about 10 secs...

    I've noticed that after installing tons of applications, like adobe acrobat, imesh, limewire, netscape, etc...its running a little slow, well maybe not too slow. But i've noticed it takes me maybe a second longer to open windows explorer, or to open my recycle bin. It used to be on the spot, right after you let go of the mouse button, bam! its there...but now, it hesistates for maybe 1 or 2 seconds and then it opens.

    What is the deal here? What did i change by installing all these apps?
    Also i've noticed that after installing mcafee virus scan, the boot up process takes a while longer, i'm assuming that the virus program is checking my computer, so thats fine.

    Any suggestions of what happened or what to do?
    Thanks.

    By Gackt2k July 09, 2001, 03:33 PM

    u should check what's running in the background, get rid of those spywarez, and regularly scandisk/defrag ur hd to get the max performance, good luck

    By Soyokaze July 09, 2001, 03:37 PM

    All of those programs you installed add info to the registry and clutter up your hard drive. Windows isn't all that great when it comes to registry problems and it really only runs best right after an install. When you put other programs in the mix, it slows down because it has to sift through all the new info. It's nothing new, Windows has always been like that.

    By Phaethon July 09, 2001, 03:38 PM

    One way to help alleviate this problem is to run msconfig and remove anything from your startup folder that you don't want to use all the time. Then reboot.

    Do NOT do this if you aren't sure that you know what to remove or not (and do NOT, I repeat, do NOT touch anything other than the "startup" tab). Also, keep in mind that some software is just a pain in the ass. RealPlayer for instance will need to be removed after every time you use it.

    By biosx July 09, 2001, 03:41 PM

    I agree with above, that you should run 'msconfig' and go through and turn off any applications you don't need to startup automatically. All you need is Explorer, System Tray, and usually your Anti-Virus program.

    Your anti-virus probably scans on boot-up and that is why it takes a little longer.

    Also, I strongly agree with what he said above which is scandisk and defrag frequently (at least once a month).

    Hardware can become slower the longer you have it though, as well. I remember the first night I bought this new 56k modem, I had sub 100 ping in Half Life online. Then as the months went on, the ping rose up until I got an average of 200. Dust, heat, and unecessary overuse can be the culprit in hardware becoming slower.

    Anyway, have fun. Hope I helped

    By J Silver July 09, 2001, 04:41 PM

    Mine seems to.

    By InFlames July 09, 2001, 05:10 PM

    Is there a good tool that lets you manage your registry?

    By gammaray51 July 09, 2001, 05:43 PM

    quote:Originally posted by InFlames:
    Is there a good tool that lets you manage your registry?

    regedit. Its not a good tool, but it lets you edit your registry. (just make sure you keep a working backup)

    By gotmonopoly? July 09, 2001, 05:44 PM

    registry = stupidest idea ever

    By ArAi July 09, 2001, 05:52 PM

    I've done the msconfig deal. Unchecked lots of stuff that i didn't think should be on there. It helped a bit, but its not as responsive at when you first install windows. Everything else is ok thought, when you already have the programs open, it still works fast.
    Oh well...

    By adam18 July 09, 2001, 05:55 PM

    What exactly does defragging your hard drive do?

    By Firebaal July 09, 2001, 06:14 PM

    PC Magazine's Startup Cop
    http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-1461989-100-5943130.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.5943130

    ftp://ftp.download.com/pub/zd/PCMag/startcop.zip

    Description
    When Windows starts up, it automatically launches a number of programs for you. Some of these come from the Startup folder. Windows also looks in six other locations for files that should be launched at startup. Startup Cop helps you handle problems with programs that are automatically launched at startup by listing them and letting you disable, enable, or delete them. You can save the list of programs that are currently enabled or disabled as a profile that can be restored at a later time. Startup Cop was written by Neil J. Rubenking, and first appeared in PC Magazine April 20, 1999 (v18n08).


    This program is simply amazing.... it works wonders, it shows you a list of everything that starts up and all you have to do is disable everything execept SystemTray and ScanRegistry and NO this program doesn't run in the background itself, all it does is REM (disable) the line the program put to start itself up, you never have to worry about anything messing up, if for some reason something does get messed up just enable it again! its that simple! :-)

    -Jason Swanson

    By dighn July 09, 2001, 06:23 PM

    Also many programs install "extensions" (like the popup context menus for zip files and items in My Computer) to Explorer and Windows itself that must be initialized and loaded.

    By archibald July 09, 2001, 06:59 PM

    I find it's more when you Uninstall programs that ur PC gets slower, this is because the program uninstallers and Windows can't always remove all the registry items so your 'puter slows down.

    I use FIx it Utilities in conjunction w/Norton sysworks and my puter seems as fast now as it ever was!

    By matt_h July 10, 2001, 04:10 AM

    quote:Originally posted by adam18:
    What exactly does defragging your hard drive do?

    When you run defrag it organizes all the data on the HD so the computer knows where everything is. Cause when you add files or programs after you've deleted things windows throws parts of programs wherever it can find space. Things slowly start to get disorganized and when a certain program goes to look for a file it needs it takes longer for it to find because your HD is in such a disarray.

    I hope that helped clarify it a bit more for you.

    By Aurora July 10, 2001, 08:47 AM

    quote:Originally posted by InFlames:
    Is there a good tool that lets you manage your registry?

    Right now I'm using Fit-It Utilities 3.0. I don't believe it has much registry management, but it does have a registry cleaner and a registry defrag. I recently used this to clean up my parents old computer which hasn't been reformatted in ages. It cleaned over 1500 invalid registry references out and after running the reg defragger I noticed a rather decent increase in speed in regards to how fast the comp booted and how fast programs launched. I don't know what other's experiences with this software are but mine has been very positive.

    By dancinginthedark July 10, 2001, 01:14 PM

    make sure you're also fine tuning your system itself.

    enable DMA on all the drives... set your swap file (virtual memory) at a fixed amount.

    tweakui is a decent program... but remember that every program you install will burden your processor at startup despite all the reg edits in the world.

    i would suggest not having programs installed that you don't use... but i'll assume that you use all the programs you listed...

    you may also want to go to your bios and make sure your ram is running as fast at it will go.

    windows has always been and will always be a bloated scary thoughtless piece of code... so the BEST suggestion here would be to just learn to DEAL with it.

    end transmission

    By AMD Soldier July 10, 2001, 03:32 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Phaethon:
    repeat, do NOT touch anything other than the "startup" tab)


    Um why not?

    I have everything unchecked in mine besides the registery scan. Also try going into RealPlayer and LET it to not start on boot up same for AOL and other crap like that. It's not that hard..


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