Home

News

Forums

Hardware

CPUs

Mainboards

Video

Guides

CPU Prices

Memory Prices

Shop



Sharky Extreme :


Latest News


- Acer Fires Up Two New Ferrari Notebooks
- Belkin Debuts Docking Station for ExpressCard-Equipped Notebooks
- Logitech 5.1 Speaker System Puts Your Ears At Eye Level
- Dell, Nvidia, and Intel Fire Up Overclockable Gaming Notebook
- Gateway Puts Premium Components Into Affordable Home Desktop
News Archives

Features

- SharkyExtreme.com: Interview with ATI's Terry Makedon
- SharkyExtreme.com: Interview with Seagate's Joni Clark
- Half-Life 2 Review
- DOOM 3 Review
- Unreal Tournament 2004 Review

Buyer's Guides

- September High-end Gaming PC Buyer's Guide
- September Value Gaming PC Buyer's Guide
- October Extreme Gaming PC Buyer's Guide

HARDWARE

  • CPUs


  • Motherboards

    - DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Motherboard Review

  • Video Cards

    - Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GT 256MB Review
    - ASUS EN7900GT TOP 256MB Review
    - ASUS EN7600GT Silent 256MB Review
    - Biostar GeForce 7900 GT 256MB Review





  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: What is my bottleneck?

    What is my bottleneck?
    By Phydeaux July 31, 2001, 01:42 PM

    My specs are below. Playing Diablo II, single player, I get about 25fps and 25 skipped. I also have about a 200mb swap file.

    Thx.

    By Fin015 July 31, 2001, 01:45 PM

    I'm not sure, but one thing I might question is your 5400rpm drive. DiabloII likes to load stuff constantly, and if your drive's busy being read it tends to mess with all sorts of other stuff. Is it a smooth 25fps or does it tend to chunk a lot?

    -Fin

    By mrsinster July 31, 2001, 02:14 PM

    Maxtor 11gb 5400rpm .This is a really old one probly has a on hardrive cache of 256k or 512k.Get a Maxtor 20 gig 7200 rpm drive with 2 meg cache.Cause the harddrive has to keep up with the CPU writes and ram writes. A slow harddrive like the one you have cannot cut it.

    There only $85 at newegg.com

    By Un4given July 31, 2001, 03:58 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Phydeaux:
    My specs are below. Playing Diablo II, single player, I get about 25fps and 25 skipped. I also have about a 200mb swap file.

    Thx.

    Knowing the resolution, color depth, and quality settings could help address the issue.

    Also, what about your drivers? Do you have the latest 4-in-1 and Detonators?

    By Razz July 31, 2001, 05:13 PM

    then again it just might be battle.net

    By patssle July 31, 2001, 07:20 PM

    get a new hardrive

    By Phydeaux July 31, 2001, 09:12 PM

    Fin,

    It's a relatively smooth 25fps.

    Un4,

    My win98 desktop is set at 1280x1024x16 bit. I think I'm using Detonator 6.51 and 4-in-1 4.25, but I just d/l'd 12.40(?) and 4.32. I also grabbed Elsa's latest drivers. Which do you think are better?

    3 votes for hd. Hmmm... another item on my to-buy list. It never ends.

    By LiquidGoop July 31, 2001, 09:24 PM

    No, with computers the list NEVER ends...

    By Motoman July 31, 2001, 10:20 PM

    The hard drive doesn't have anything to do with it...I've built a wad of computers essentially identical to yours, with 5,400RPM drives. They play Diablo II fine. I would make sure you're on the latest 4-in-1 and Detonator drivers. Uninstall any old drivers before installing the new ones, to be sure.

    I built my cousin's kid a Duron 650Mhz box with 256Mb of RAM, 20Gb 5,400 RPM hard drive, and a GeForce2 MX card, and it's just peachy with Diablo II. Granted, it's no where near as smooth as my box, but there's a slight difference in hardware...

    By Squirrel Meat August 01, 2001, 12:59 AM

    Yeah its prolly just your vid drivers. Im running on a 800 Mhz and im getting like 70 fps on battle.net.

    By Archknight August 01, 2001, 01:48 AM

    Is single player the fps suppose to be locked between 20-30fps. So the 25 is normal in single player, it is unlock at multiplayer though.

    Diablo2 goes to my harddrive more often than other games, maybe this is where the swap files come from.

    By ChronoTrigger August 01, 2001, 02:21 AM

    How exactly do you measure the FPS in Diablo II? I wanna test my obsolete system.

    By mrsinster August 01, 2001, 06:17 AM

    quote:Originally posted by Motoman:
    The hard drive doesn't have anything to do with it...I've built a wad of computers essentially identical to yours, with 5,400RPM drives. They play Diablo II fine. I would make sure you're on the latest 4-in-1 and Detonator drivers. Uninstall any old drivers before installing the new ones, to be sure.

    I built my cousin's kid a Duron 650Mhz box with 256Mb of RAM, 20Gb 5,400 RPM hard drive, and a GeForce2 MX card, and it's just peachy with Diablo II. Granted, it's no where near as smooth as my box, but there's a slight difference in hardware...

    I usally agree with you ,but your talking about the newer 5400rpm drives with 1 meg cache .Please look at the whole picture.He`s got that old 11 to 15 gig with either 256k or 512 cache. I`m betting not even udma 33.Which is making the processor do more of the harddrive`s work than the harddrive is.Even if it`s not whats causing the problem right now it will really really soon.

    By Motoman August 01, 2001, 10:54 AM

    quote:Originally posted by mrsinster:
    I usally agree with you ,but your talking about the newer 5400rpm drives with 1 meg cache .Please look at the whole picture.He`s got that old 11 to 15 gig with either 256k or 512 cache. I`m betting not even udma 33.Which is making the processor do more of the harddrive`s work than the harddrive is.Even if it`s not whats causing the problem right now it will really really soon.



    I catch your drift, but I'm still pretty skeptical about the hard drive being the source of this problem. I don't think they made hard drives that big that weren't UDMA/33...and even considering the cache size, it wouldn't cause this kind of terrible game play. I'd bet money that if we ghosted his drive to a new ATA/100 drive it wouldn't make any difference.

    It's probably drivers, or some .dll conflict. It would be a good idea to make sure your DMA settings are appropriate (in BIOS and Control Panel) assuming the thing is UDMA. Also, make sure your hard drive is completely defragmented - if it's framented all to hell, that could definitely have an impact.


    Also, I don't know about the theory that D2 is "locked" to only 25 FPS in single player mode - it plays so smoothly on my machines that I would swear it's comeing through at least in the 60s, if not higher...

    By Phydeaux August 01, 2001, 01:28 PM

    Chrono,
    Bring up the chat box, type ... "fps", and hit enter.

    I also d/l'd the latest Abit bios, Elsa bios, Teac firmware. But I'll have to hold off flashing until my new Enermax 350w ps arrives.

    By SilentStrike August 01, 2001, 01:53 PM

    The D2 single player engine is your bottleneck. It caps the framerate at 25, because it only recalculates all the new goings on every 1/25th of a second... so making it any faster wouldn't be worth it.

    By Phydeaux August 02, 2001, 01:07 AM

    Silent,

    Do you have any documentation about this "frame-rate cap"? Does Blizzard mention it on their site anywhere?

    By mr freeze August 02, 2001, 08:26 AM

    I think its his floppy drive.Or his speakers.Hmmm...how many hours have I been awake??? I got it,the keyboard.


    Contact Us | www.SharkyForums.com

    Copyright 1999, 2000 internet.com Corporation. All Rights Reserved.


    Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46

    previous page
    next page





    Copyright 2002 INT Media Group, Incorporated. All Rights Reserved. About INT Media Group | Press Releases | Privacy Policy | Career Opportunities