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  • Pencil OC T-bird?
    By menting October 17, 2000, 03:59 AM

    i've read numerous articles on how to oc the duron by just connecting the L1 bridges
    but i dont recall reading about the T-bird.
    Is it the same way to oc a T-bird, ie by just connecting L1 bridges? Or do you have to use a GFD like the classic athlons?
    if someone can just clear it up for me.thanks

    By ryandinan October 17, 2000, 09:18 AM

    A friend of mine used a pencil to overclock his T-bird.......I didnt ask much about how he did it...But he claims it works. Id check out www.overclockers.com to make sure..
    -Ryan

    By rock October 17, 2000, 09:42 AM

    It's the same as a Duron - just draw the 4 lines across the L1 "golden bridges" and you're set. My originally clock-locked TBird 750 is now running fat&happy at 950. A free 200MHz by 5 minutes with a 0.5mm mechanical pencil and 2 of lead.

    By TekkieJosh October 17, 2000, 10:49 AM

    Here's a good place that shows you how to do it:

    Click Here

    TJ

    By Eman October 17, 2000, 12:03 PM

    Yeah it's the same. I just did it a few days ago. 0.5mm mechanical pencil worked the best for me. And if you mess up or want to de-overclock you can just erase the lines.

    Eman

    By OOAgentFiruz October 17, 2000, 01:31 PM

    Eman to deoverclock use the jumpers or bios : ) you should never have to take out the chip once it's in its socket.

    By Eman October 18, 2000, 04:48 PM

    Huh? What are you talking about OOAgentFiruz. I was just saying that if you messed up the lines you could erase them easier than say with a defogger kit or conductive pen. Yeah I know you adjust the speed with the jumpers or bios. But lets say you had to return your processor because it fried, the company wouldnt know you had overclocked it if you used a pencil. But they probably would if the connections were permanent.

    Eman

    By Momaw October 18, 2000, 04:55 PM

    Uh...

    Overclocking is forcing hardware to go faster than the company thinks it's reliably capable of. If you overclock, you're taking a risk of unstable operation or just plain frying the sucker. You would in essence lie to the company by returning a CPU that you'd fried and erase the penciled lines.

    Does this strike anyone else as really really unethical and kinda lame...?

    By mlusr October 18, 2000, 05:01 PM

    quote:Originally posted by TekkieJosh:
    Here's a good place that shows you how to do it:

    Click Here

    TJ

    This one also seems good: http://www.pcscoop.com/hardware/cpus_heatsinks/AMD/Duron600Overclock/index.asp

    By cranch October 18, 2000, 05:24 PM

    The pencil trick works SWEET! Took 2 minutes to draw the lines, and have got my 850 right near a 1ghz without any problems! With the KT7 (thats what I have) the setttings are simple! And how many people really think that its unethical to erase the lines and send it back if its fried? (And what are the chances of this happening anyways?) HAS ANYONE EVER FRIED THEIR DURON/TBIRD? If so HOW?

    By jtshaw October 18, 2000, 05:36 PM

    Unfortunetly I have seen it done, one person I know did it because he apparently didn't have good heat transpher (probably had a bunch of air between the head sink and the processor) and his burned out running non-overclocked. Another person I know overclocked his 750 to 950 and it constantly shutdown. He lowered it to around 850 and it ended up crapping out a few days later. Has anyone tried overclocking the 1.1 Ghz.?:P I think running at 11 x 133 = 1463 could be interesting...or 12 x 133 = 1596 if you get a 1.2Ghz.
    quote:Originally posted by cranch:
    The pencil trick works SWEET! Took 2 minutes to draw the lines, and have got my 850 right near a 1ghz without any problems! With the KT7 (thats what I have) the setttings are simple! And how many people really think that its unethical to erase the lines and send it back if its fried? (And what are the chances of this happening anyways?) HAS ANYONE EVER FRIED THEIR DURON/TBIRD? If so HOW?

    By TekkieJosh October 18, 2000, 07:37 PM

    quote:Originally posted by jtshaw:
    Has anyone tried overclocking the 1.1 Ghz.?:P I think running at 11 x 133 = 1463 could be interesting...or 12 x 133 = 1596 if you get a 1.2Ghz.

    You cant Overclock AMD processors by FSB that much. They are meant to be overclocked by the Clock Multiplier, which doesnt stress all your other stuff.

    quote:Originally posted by mlusr:
    This one also seems good: http://www.pcscoop.com/hardware/cpus_heatsinks/AMD/Duron600Overclock/index.asp

    Ya, thanks. That's a great place to go and learn too

    quote:Originally posted by momaw:
    Uh...
    Overclocking is forcing hardware to go faster than the company thinks it's reliably capable of. If you overclock, you're taking a risk of unstable operation or just plain frying the sucker. You would in essence lie to the company by returning a CPU that you'd fried and erase the penciled lines.

    Does this strike anyone else as really really unethical and kinda lame...?

    Not at all. It's actually quite normal for the human race It happens all the time. Some people cheat, some people dont. I'm not saying that cheating and lying is right, but just dont get caught

    TJ

    By Momaw October 18, 2000, 09:21 PM

    quote:Originally posted by TekkieJosh:
    Not at all. It's actually quite normal for the human race It happens all the time. Some people cheat, some people dont. I'm not saying that cheating and lying is right, but just dont get caught

    It's your conscience :-)

    By TekkieJosh October 19, 2000, 12:46 AM

    quote:Originally posted by Momaw:
    It's your conscience :-)

    Well, i wouldnt do that I'd just tinker and take it apart and grab another one from my garage It's just most people would cheat and do what is best for them. It's all about what you think the human race is: good or evil...

    TJ

    By alexross October 19, 2000, 03:13 AM

    Heya,

    We just posted an article about this but I think you'll find this page useful. It shows exactly what to do and where under a microscope for ya: www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/articles/amd_oc_10-00/3.shtml

    quote:Originally posted by menting:
    i've read numerous articles on how to oc the duron by just connecting the L1 bridges
    but i dont recall reading about the T-bird.
    Is it the same way to oc a T-bird, ie by just connecting L1 bridges? Or do you have to use a GFD like the classic athlons?
    if someone can just clear it up for me.thanks

    By surf October 19, 2000, 09:48 AM

    momaw... what are u doing posting in a forum like this if you think that its unethical to pencil in the bridges? and if your just saying that its unethical to lie, well then i agree with you. DOnt bash overclocking in a forum of overclockers, cause you know what? that makes you REALLY lame. Put up or shut up!
    tbird800@970 (standard hsf )
    abit kt7

    By stoo October 19, 2000, 02:20 PM

    quote:Overclocking is forcing hardware to go faster than the company thinks it's reliably capable of.

    Not necessarily: I reckon Durons could be rated a lot higher than they are, but aren't because they're budget chips and Tbirds are the flagship and therefore have the higher clockspeed.


    Stoo

    By !DOGgie October 19, 2000, 05:45 PM

    quote:Originally posted by rock:
    It's the same as a Duron - just draw the 4 lines across the L1 "golden bridges" and you're set. My originally clock-locked TBird 750 is now running fat&happy at 950. A free 200MHz by 5 minutes with a 0.5mm mechanical pencil and 2 of lead.

    now that's some good sh**...

    By NateK9 October 19, 2000, 06:03 PM

    Overclocking immoral?

    What's the difference between a 600mhz Duron and an 800mhz Duron? Why can some people overclock much more than others using "exact" hardware. Do you think chip companies test the chips at the rated speed? I doubt it. They test them to run at higher speeds simply to streamline the quality control process and increase customer satisfaction. Supply and demand: say a chip company has 100,000 700mhz chips and 50,000 600mhz chips and and order comes in for 50,000 800mhz chips and 100,000 600mhz chips. Do you think their gonna say, "well, you'll have to wait a week because we're not making many 600mhz anymore." Think of what happened with Intel releases it's >1Ghz PIII...anyway, i'm done now. What would you do if you sold CPU's? Think anyone's going to buy your's if it can't be overclocked when the competition's can? Hope y'all get my drift. Yep, a chili dog for breakfast, so sue me for pollutin...

    Oh, one more thing, does any think that chip companies send hardware reviewers better chips that the rest of us to get in the limelight?

    Oh, and the rumors that Bill Gates is gay are completely false! Don't believe the tabloids people. He was not anywhere near the sheep when the bomb went off.

    >Overclocking is forcing hardware to go
    >faster than the company thinks it's
    >reliably capable of.


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