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  • SharkyForums.Com - Print: Woohoo!!! NV20

    Woohoo!!! NV20
    By Dan1 October 23, 2000, 06:02 PM

    Finally putting in a decent memory bus on the NV20 AND using DDR ram with it, looks like they might have overcome the bandwidth hurdle which means that maybe those nice overclockable cores will finally show what they've got! I'm just so happy, this and the Raedon II should make a nice shoot out once the reviewers start getting them.
    300MHz core
    200MHz DDR ram on a 256bit bus (double the GF&GF2's bus width)
    12.8GBps, 60% more than the GF2 Ultra
    6 pipelines 50% more than GF2
    Sweet, now let's see some Raedon II specs.

    By GTaudiophile October 23, 2000, 07:43 PM

    They can barely pump out enough GF2Us, so do you honestly think nVidia is going to release a card that is 10x faster in a month??? I'm guessing there will be an official release of NV20 in late February, 2001. That could change if ATI releases the RadeonII or MAXX or whatever around X-mas, which I highly doubt. I mean, come on, these companies have pumped millions in R&D into the Radeon and GF2, and they want some ROI!

    By Dan1 October 24, 2000, 01:13 PM

    Did I say I expected to see it next month? No I didn't I just said it was nice to see them finally putting a decent bus on the board. They also plan on using a .15um process so I do believe they will be able to pump out 300MHz cores fairly easily. Of course at $800 a pop I may just wait a while.

    By Humus October 24, 2000, 01:40 PM

    Those specs is most likely not accurate. And even if they were the actual numbers nVidia is pointing towards they are likely to change before the release.

    By busithoth October 24, 2000, 01:44 PM

    I'd be excited about those numbers too.
    Where'd you see them?
    Remember 3Dfx's stats on the 5500 before it came out? 1600-1200 @ 60 FPS...

    Yeah right.
    and $800? Now that gets me excited. I've been waiting for either the NV20 or the Radeon II/Maxx to come out too. Leaning towards the latter, but there'll also be a RAMPAGE, right?

    By DeCadence October 24, 2000, 03:21 PM

    NV30 specs are out now!

    600 MHz core speed
    500 MHz memory speed TDR (triple data rate)
    embedded HD 15GB
    programmable H&K (2000 rounds per minute)
    1024 bit Memory Bus

    By Dan1 October 24, 2000, 06:00 PM

    And teh NV30 only costs $1500 for the 128MB version and $2500 for the 256MB version

    By Humus October 25, 2000, 05:34 AM

    quote:Originally posted by DeCadence:
    NV30 specs are out now!

    600 MHz core speed
    500 MHz memory speed TDR (triple data rate)
    embedded HD 15GB
    programmable H&K (2000 rounds per minute)
    1024 bit Memory Bus

    Ooooh, I'm soo excited! Where can I find more info about it ... what's it's gonna cost ... how's it gonna bench ... how's it's gonna ... LOL
    You took the word right out of my mouth DeCadence

    By Bexster October 25, 2000, 07:19 AM

    nv31 for notebooks
    actually gives the notebook extra life
    because of the suncells embedded in the hardware, it will run at 650/420 qdr
    Quadruple data rate
    imagequality will be sligthy improved
    and the new det 8 rev. will make it rock baby.
    directx 15 compatible right out of the box
    and dual hardwarefilled cursor acceleration will be included

    Dylan Walsh
    - C.E.O Nwuidia

    By Humus October 25, 2000, 11:04 AM

    Yeehaw!
    It time to save my money

    By Thalyn October 25, 2000, 08:45 PM

    NV50:

    1GHz clock
    1GHz DDDR RAM (Dodecca, or 12x)
    64 rendering pipelines with 64 texel units each (for when 63 textures just isn't enough)
    5 Billion pollies per second
    256MB cache ram on a 16,538-bit bus
    1GB RAM on a 4,096-bit bus
    AGP 128x support
    1,024 sample FSAA
    Internal nuclear reactor (no external power connecters here!)
    sub-atomic manufacturing process
    Satelite TV
    Built-in microwave
    Support for tactical nuclear warfare
    And this weird thingy that is designed to obliterate any non-NVidia videocard within a 5 mile radius.

    And the cost? Enough so that only the 50 richest people will be able to afford them for 3 years after they come out, by which time it will have been superceeded 13 times and have stopped being manufactured for 2 years, making it virtually impossible to acquire 'cause they reach critical mass some 13 months after leaving the factory.

    I think the future NVidia cards fall into the 'I'll believe it when I see it' catagory. After all, the GTS in realworld performance isn't much over the GF DDR.

    And, of couse, we all remember the Savage 2000 syndrome, don't we?

    By OOAgentFiruz October 26, 2000, 03:32 AM

    NV50: 4.1 GigaTexels/s

    By Humus October 26, 2000, 07:28 AM

    NV1000:

    yada, yada ...


    I think this joke is over now

    By Diablo SV October 26, 2000, 02:02 PM

    YES YES
    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE UPCOMING CARD SPECKS.
    NOT A NV## SPECKS
    AND ATi CHANGED THE CORE OF THE RADEON IT`S 4PIPLINES\6TEXTURE UNITS
    IT`S THE DOUBLE OF THE RADEON SO WHAT DO YOU THINK AND I HEARED THAT IT WILL USE THE NEW 250Mhz DDR-RAM LIKE rampage AND NV20
    AND ABOUT NV20 IT`S VERY IMPRIZIVE CARD
    PRETY FATS.
    BUT I`LL THINK OF R2 MAXX (FOR $$ AND SPEED AND MULTIMEADIA)
    SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

    ____________________-
    whoop`s sorryit`s 4PIPLINES\3! TEXTURE UNIT`S

    RADEON RULCKS


    By UrsaMajor October 26, 2000, 02:36 PM

    I'll wait until the 1 terratexel/s cards are out.

    By Sol October 26, 2000, 03:26 PM

    hmmmm $800??? I think i will just wait awhile on my next video card.

    By Homeboy October 26, 2000, 05:51 PM

    Hello All. Nvidia whips 3dfx nowadays

    By Homeboy October 26, 2000, 05:51 PM

    Hello All. Nvidia whips 3dfx nowadays

    By Thalyn October 26, 2000, 06:56 PM

    ATi going for 4 pipelines/6 textures? Why? They'd be much better off going for 6/4. Games that use 4 textures aren't going to catch on, what with hardware lighting replacing the need for light/shadow mapping. Besides, those effects can be faked extremely well with only 3 textures (including a mini-texture). Having any more than 4 textures per pass is simply a waste of speed, and really only misleads you when a card boasts a fillrate of 4,800MTexels, when it only boasts 800MPixels.

    *edit*
    whoops, only multiplied the 800 by 3, not 6!

    By Humus October 26, 2000, 07:51 PM

    quote:Originally posted by Thalyn:
    ATi going for 4 pipelines/6 textures? Why? They'd be much better off going for 6/4. Games that use 4 textures aren't going to catch on, what with hardware lighting replacing the need for light/shadow mapping. Besides, those effects can be faked extremely well with only 3 textures (including a mini-texture). Having any more than 4 textures per pass is simply a waste of speed, and really only misleads you when a card boasts a fillrate of 4,800MTexels, when it only boasts 800MPixels.

    *edit*
    whoops, only multiplied the 800 by 3, not 6!

    From what I've heard it's gonna be 4 pipeline with 3 textures, but those speculations are just as useless as any NV## specualitions.
    But having more than 3 texturing units isn't a bad idea. Games of today already uses many texture layers. Quake3 uses up to 10 textures in the worst case, and doom3 is supposedly gonna use like 15 or more texture layers.
    However, every new texturing unit will boost performance less, especially nowadays when memory bandwidth is getting more and more limited. Up to 4 units is useful in my opinion.

    By Diablo SV October 27, 2000, 03:33 AM

    HAY HAY
    DID ANY BODY FORGET THE HYPER-Z?
    AND THE RADEON 2 WILL BE FASTER THAN 200MHz(FOR CORE)AND ABOUT 250MHz(FOR MEMORY).
    SO WHAT DO U THINK????????
    4.8G\TEXEL`S?? 800 M\PIXEL`S?
    I THINK IT WILL BE ATLEASET(WITH 200\200 AND HYPER-Z)
    5 G\TEXEL`S AND 1 (G)\PIXEL`S

    RADEON RULCKS


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